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Old August 2nd 04, 09:23 AM
Tony
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Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?

Thanks,
Tony

Inviato da www.mynewsgate.net
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Old August 2nd 04, 09:44 AM
Richard Cockburn
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"Tony" wrote in
:

Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?

Thanks,
Tony

Inviato da www.mynewsgate.net


You can probably find a new Canon EOS Elan 7 on sale for a good price, now
that the 7N is on the shelves. The Elan is a step up from the Rebel series
in terms of build quality and features. Coupled with a 50mm lens to start,
you've got yourself a nice kit. Learn the pluses and minuses of a single
focal length, then move on to another prime, or even a zoom lens. I started
with a Rebel and the 50mm/1.4. My kit has grown considerably since then,
but this is still my favorite lens. I use it primarily for street
photography. It also shines in low light situations. To save money, you
could pick up the nearly-as-good 50mm/1.8 for about $70 USD, whereas the
1.4 will run you about $300. They are both very sharp, but the 1.4 does
have a much more solid build, metal lens mount instead of plastic, USM
internal focusing mechanism, and smoother bokeh/blur.

Whatever you do, stay away from most standard "kit lenses" that come
coupled with camera bodies (usually slow 28 or 35 to 80 or 90 mm zooms).
Take a look at ratings for various lenses at http://www.photodo.com and you
will get a sense of how well these 50mm and other prime lenses compare to
zoom lenses in the consumer price range.

Good luck with your choice. Please come back and tell us what you decided
to buy.

--
"Live fast. Die young." (Nikki Sixx)

-Richard Cockburn
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Old August 2nd 04, 09:44 AM
Richard Cockburn
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"Tony" wrote in
:

Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?

Thanks,
Tony

Inviato da www.mynewsgate.net


You can probably find a new Canon EOS Elan 7 on sale for a good price, now
that the 7N is on the shelves. The Elan is a step up from the Rebel series
in terms of build quality and features. Coupled with a 50mm lens to start,
you've got yourself a nice kit. Learn the pluses and minuses of a single
focal length, then move on to another prime, or even a zoom lens. I started
with a Rebel and the 50mm/1.4. My kit has grown considerably since then,
but this is still my favorite lens. I use it primarily for street
photography. It also shines in low light situations. To save money, you
could pick up the nearly-as-good 50mm/1.8 for about $70 USD, whereas the
1.4 will run you about $300. They are both very sharp, but the 1.4 does
have a much more solid build, metal lens mount instead of plastic, USM
internal focusing mechanism, and smoother bokeh/blur.

Whatever you do, stay away from most standard "kit lenses" that come
coupled with camera bodies (usually slow 28 or 35 to 80 or 90 mm zooms).
Take a look at ratings for various lenses at http://www.photodo.com and you
will get a sense of how well these 50mm and other prime lenses compare to
zoom lenses in the consumer price range.

Good luck with your choice. Please come back and tell us what you decided
to buy.

--
"Live fast. Die young." (Nikki Sixx)

-Richard Cockburn
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Old August 2nd 04, 10:40 AM
Ralf R. Radermacher
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Tony wrote:

I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.


How really charming. :-))

Ralf

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manual cameras and photo galleries - updated April 29, 2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
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Old August 2nd 04, 11:05 AM
Ralf R. Radermacher
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Tony wrote:

I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.


How sweet. :-)

Ralf

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Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated April 29, 2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
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Old August 2nd 04, 11:05 AM
Ralf R. Radermacher
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Tony wrote:

I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.


How sweet. :-)

Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany
private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de
manual cameras and photo galleries - updated April 29, 2004
Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses
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Old August 2nd 04, 12:10 PM
Bhup
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tony both are great cameras but the limit is your talent not the equipment


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"Tony" wrote in message
...
Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?

Thanks,
Tony

Inviato da www.mynewsgate.net



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Old August 2nd 04, 12:10 PM
Bhup
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tony both are great cameras but the limit is your talent not the equipment


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"Tony" wrote in message
...
Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?

Thanks,
Tony

Inviato da www.mynewsgate.net



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Old August 2nd 04, 12:46 PM
Bandicoot
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"Tony" wrote in message
...
Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?


The F100 is a _much_ better camera, but it still has some limitations: any
camera body does involve making some compromises and choices. Which
particular compromises will matter most to you is something you'll learn in
the course of your studies and as you decide what sort of photography you
want to specialise in.

For that reason, I'd suggest getting something tough, flexible, cheap, and
simple while you are learning, and then replacing it with a more
sophisiticated model once you are in a position to make a more informed
choice about what will best match _your_ needs.

The tutor of the classes you are taking will probably be able to recommend
the sort of camera s/he suggests you get as this first 'learning tool' body.
It will probably be an older, all manual, possibly mechanical, body with a
good choice of lenses - a favourite of photography teachers in this category
is the Pentax K1000, but there are many other suitable choices too.

Best wishes,


Peter


  #10  
Old August 2nd 04, 12:46 PM
Bandicoot
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"Tony" wrote in message
...
Hi All,
I would like to become a professional photographer. On September I
will follow some classes and I am reading a good manual at the moment.
Could you suggest me a good camera to start with with the budget of
$350-$500. Is better a new one with limited features, or a second hand
but older and full feautured? Is better a F100 in good condition
second hand, or a Canon EOS300v brand new? What are the disadvantages
of the F100 because is a quite old model?


The F100 is a _much_ better camera, but it still has some limitations: any
camera body does involve making some compromises and choices. Which
particular compromises will matter most to you is something you'll learn in
the course of your studies and as you decide what sort of photography you
want to specialise in.

For that reason, I'd suggest getting something tough, flexible, cheap, and
simple while you are learning, and then replacing it with a more
sophisiticated model once you are in a position to make a more informed
choice about what will best match _your_ needs.

The tutor of the classes you are taking will probably be able to recommend
the sort of camera s/he suggests you get as this first 'learning tool' body.
It will probably be an older, all manual, possibly mechanical, body with a
good choice of lenses - a favourite of photography teachers in this category
is the Pentax K1000, but there are many other suitable choices too.

Best wishes,


Peter


 




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