FS Infrared Digital Rebel (300) IR conversion by LifePixel

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT), EBL wrote:

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It'd be far easier and more inexpensive to get any of the Sony super-zoom
cameras with "Night Shot" mode built into them that easily rival images
taken with most dSLRs. Then you can get excellent images in visible as well
as IR light with just the toggle of a button.

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:39:31 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote:



Better Info wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT), EBL wrote:

See spamlink listing--starting bid only $400.00

http://spamlink.com/ws/spamlink?ViewItem&item=spamlink


It'd be far easier and more inexpensive to get any of the Sony super-zoom
cameras with "Night Shot" mode built into them that easily rival images
taken with most dSLRs. Then you can get excellent images in visible as well
as IR light with just the toggle of a button.

IR images are prone to digital noise, even with converted DSLRs and
low ISOs. Why would anyone want to use a crappy P&S with a crappy,
tiny, noisy sensor and exacerbate the problem?

You've apparently never used these "Night Shot" cameras nor studied up on
them. There is no noise in the daytime IR images. They are shot at ISO100
using conventional daytime shutter speeds. Hand-held IR photography is easy
with these cameras. Sony's own sensors for these "Night Shot" cameras are
optimized for dual use, IR and visual. They have the widest spectral
response of any sensors in any cameras. Go study up on them. Only when
using the available exaggerated ISOs in pitch-dark conditions at night will
you get some noise. Easily removed with post-processing. But even then if
you have enough IR illumination at night there is no noise in the images
when you can use the lower ISOs while in "Night Shot" mode. Sony also
offers (relatively inexpensive, ~$40) IR floods, even accepting 2 different
power sources (AAs and Li-Ions), so you don't have to depend on higher ISOs
at night for IR photography. I own two of these really nice IR floods for
nighttime IR wildlife photography.

Try to not speak of which you know not. You only end up appearing even more
the fool than you've already proved yourself to be.

In article , Better Info
wrote:

Try to not speak of which you know not. You only end up appearing even more
the fool than you've already proved yourself to be.

good advice. why not try it yourself.

On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:29:53 -0400, nospam wrote:

In article , Better Info
wrote:

Try to not speak of which you know not. You only end up appearing even more
the fool than you've already proved yourself to be.

good advice. why not try it yourself.

In order for you to be believed you'd have to prove me wrong.

Try it.

Oh wait, that's right, you can't. That's why you can only resort to puerile
insults, just like any of the other usual trolls on usenet.

"Better Info" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:29:53 -0400, nospam wrote:

In article , Better Info
wrote:

Try to not speak of which you know not. You only end up appearing even
more
the fool than you've already proved yourself to be.

good advice. why not try it yourself.

In order for you to be believed you'd have to prove me wrong.

Try it.

Oh wait, that's right, you can't. That's why you can only resort to
puerile
insults, just like any of the other usual trolls on usenet.



Well until you post some great shots you have taken so everyone can see how
great you really are you are just wrong and still being laughed at.

LOL

"Better Info" wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT), EBL wrote:

See spamlink listing--starting bid only $400.00

http://spamlink.com/ws/spamlink?ViewItem&item=spamlink


It'd be far easier and more inexpensive to get any of the Sony super-zoom
cameras with "Night Shot" mode built into them that easily rival images
taken with most dSLRs. Then you can get excellent images in visible as
well
as IR light with just the toggle of a button.

?Night Mode" (light amplification) is not the same as IR

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:47:26 -0400, "SPAM.WATCH"
wrote:


"Better Info" wrote in message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT), EBL wrote:

See spamlink listing--starting bid only $400.00

http://spamlink.com/ws/spamlink?ViewItem&item=spamlink


It'd be far easier and more inexpensive to get any of the Sony super-zoom
cameras with "Night Shot" mode built into them that easily rival images
taken with most dSLRs. Then you can get excellent images in visible as
well
as IR light with just the toggle of a button.

?Night Mode" (light amplification) is not the same as IR


Wrong. Go educate yourself.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote:

On Aug 10, 1:23*pm, Sigh - The Idiots Never End
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:47:26 -0400, "SPAM.WATCH"



wrote:

"Better Info" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT), EBL wrote:

See spamlink listing--starting bid only $400.00

http://spamlink.com/ws/spamlink?ViewItem&item=spamlink

It'd be far easier and more inexpensive to get any of the Sony super-zoom
cameras with "Night Shot" mode built into them that easily rival images
taken with most dSLRs. Then you can get excellent images in visible as
well
as IR light with just the toggle of a button.

?Night Mode" (light amplification) is not the same as IR

Wrong. Go educate yourself.

Worse yet if it is a light amplification device because they produce
even UGLIER pictures than an IR P&S would.

You useless idiot DSLR-Trolls are all alike.

The "Night Shot" mode in Sony cameras is REAL INFRARED IMAGING. When
engaged it automatically flips the standard IR filter out of the light path
of the highly sensitive CCD and adjusts all focusing changes accordingly.
These cameras also include built-in high-power IR LEDs that turn on so you
may focus and take images and videos in complete darkness--without having
to use any external IR light source if you so wish. Optional high-power IR
floods with focused IR LEDs are also available from Sony for more distant
subjects. Just one of them will adequately light up a subject with enough
IR light for proper exposures up to 30 ft. away in total darkness. These
cameras also include a "Night Framing" mode, where you can see, compose,
and rapidly focus in total darkness by IR light alone. Then it puts the IR
filter back in place during the actual exposure, firing the flash for
properly exposed full-color photography, all in an instant.


Go educate your useless ignorant troll selves. Get a ****in' clue for once
in your miserable pretend-photographer troll lives. You only waste the time
and lives of everyone in the world that will always know more than you ever
will. That shall be your only legacy after you are happily and finally dead
and gone. Print this up for your epitaph: "The only thing I ever
accomplished in life was wasting the time of valuable people far better
than I could ever hope to be."

You useless wastes of flesh. Go teach all the females in your lineage about
abortion. They sorely missed doing the most important thing they could have
ever done in their lifetimes, no doubt due to their own ignorance on the
subject. Ignorance breeds ignorance. You are living proof of that.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:21:28 +0100, "P&S Pete"
wrote:


"Sigh - The Idiots Never End" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:32:53 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote:

On Aug 10, 1:23 pm, Sigh - The Idiots Never End
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:47:26 -0400, "SPAM.WATCH"



wrote:

"Better Info" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:13 -0700 (PDT), EBL
wrote:

See spamlink listing--starting bid only $400.00

http://spamlink.com/ws/spamlink?ViewItem&item=spamlink

It'd be far easier and more inexpensive to get any of the Sony
super-zoom
cameras with "Night Shot" mode built into them that easily rival
images
taken with most dSLRs. Then you can get excellent images in visible
as
well
as IR light with just the toggle of a button.

?Night Mode" (light amplification) is not the same as IR

Wrong. Go educate yourself.

Worse yet if it is a light amplification device because they produce
even UGLIER pictures than an IR P&S would.

You useless idiot DSLR-Trolls are all alike.

Sigh - will this troll ever get a life?

He's doing a fine job of correcting idiot trolls like you who don't even
own a camera.


The "Night Shot" mode in Sony cameras is REAL INFRARED IMAGING. When

Only near-infrared.

Wrong. Go educate yourself on their CCD's spectral sensitivity.

In fact, the high-power LEDs are clearly visible to anyone with normal
eyesight.

I cover all mine with some inexpensive polyesther #87 infrared filter
material to filter-out the the very tiny amount of visible red that shows
when they are lit. They're not even as visible as the glow from a lit
cigarette. The IR LEDs that they use are so high-powered that there's bound
to be some minor visible red being emitted. Filtering out the visible
portion doesn't effect the amount of recordable IR light reflected off of
the subjects one little bit.

But then, you'd know this if you knew anything about, or actually used,
these cameras.

Now find something else to troll about.

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:02:38 +0100, "P&S Pete"
wrote:


Polyesther?

Pointing out someone's typo is the #1 sign of an online
pretend-photographer troll that clearly lost.