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On 8/21/10 7:52 AM, in article ,
"Ofnuts" wrote:

On 21/08/2010 14:21, Peter wrote:

There is a difference between free market energy and greed. A very fine
line, but it is there

... and crossed everyday.


Banks, ATMs and convenience stores, etc... are also robbed everyday.
Should we eliminate them?

I wasn't talking abojut robbery. But since you address the subjet:
when the poor use violence to rob the rich, it's illegal, when the rich
use small print to rob the poor, it's legal.

Spoken like a true Obama supporter...

On 8/21/10 8:29 AM, in article
, "Peter"
wrote:

"Ofnuts" wrote in message
...
On 21/08/2010 14:21, Peter wrote:

There is a difference between free market energy and greed. A very fine
line, but it is there

... and crossed everyday.


Banks, ATMs and convenience stores, etc... are also robbed everyday.
Should we eliminate them?

I wasn't talking abojut robbery. But since you address the subjet:
when the poor use violence to rob the rich, it's illegal, when the rich
use small print to rob the poor, it's legal.



Small print illegal.
If a poor person buys a house he cannot afford, whose fault is that.
If you bought a camera you could not afford and you could not buy food for
your family, would that be the fault of the camera salesman? - The credit
card company -- your bank because you withdrew your money to buy the camera?
For what reason would it not be the fault of the purchaser of the home. The
concept is accepting responsibility for one's own acts.

What may be illegal was packaging these high risk mortgages and selling them
as mortgage backed securities, without adequate disclosure. Some of those
derivatives were so complex that it's almost impossible to decipher what
exactly they are.
What also may be illegal, civilly wrong, was selling derivatives while
taking a short position without disclosing the seller had more to gain if
the derivative went bad, while making a healthy profit on the sale.

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:23 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

It's difficult to dislike Rep. Barney Frank. The guy's got the best
sense of humor on Capitol Hill. He was on Steven Colbert's show
recently, and traded barbs with Colbert and held his own against one
of the funniest men on television.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

On 8/21/10 11:45 AM, in article ,
"tony cooper" wrote:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:23 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

It's difficult to dislike Rep. Barney Frank. The guy's got the best
sense of humor on Capitol Hill. He was on Steven Colbert's show
recently, and traded barbs with Colbert and held his own against one
of the funniest men on television.

A regular 'barrel of monkeys' I would bet...

"George Kerby" wrote in message
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On 8/21/10 8:29 AM, in article
, "Peter"
wrote:

"Ofnuts" wrote in message
...
On 21/08/2010 14:21, Peter wrote:

There is a difference between free market energy and greed. A very
fine
line, but it is there

... and crossed everyday.


Banks, ATMs and convenience stores, etc... are also robbed everyday.
Should we eliminate them?

I wasn't talking abojut robbery. But since you address the subjet:
when the poor use violence to rob the rich, it's illegal, when the rich
use small print to rob the poor, it's legal.



Small print illegal.
If a poor person buys a house he cannot afford, whose fault is that.
If you bought a camera you could not afford and you could not buy food
for
your family, would that be the fault of the camera salesman? - The credit
card company -- your bank because you withdrew your money to buy the
camera?
For what reason would it not be the fault of the purchaser of the home.
The
concept is accepting responsibility for one's own acts.

What may be illegal was packaging these high risk mortgages and selling
them
as mortgage backed securities, without adequate disclosure. Some of those
derivatives were so complex that it's almost impossible to decipher what
exactly they are.
What also may be illegal, civilly wrong, was selling derivatives while
taking a short position without disclosing the seller had more to gain if
the derivative went bad, while making a healthy profit on the sale.

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

And now they're putting pressure on the lenders to start giving zero-down
mortgages again! It's kind of funny that these clown in Congress indict
Roger Clemens for lying and he's threatened with 30 years while Charlie
Rangel will get a slap on the wrist from his colleagues for far worse.

On 8/23/10 3:36 PM, in article ,
"Pete Stavrakoglou" wrote:

"George Kerby" wrote in message
...



On 8/21/10 8:29 AM, in article
, "Peter"
wrote:

"Ofnuts" wrote in message
...
On 21/08/2010 14:21, Peter wrote:

There is a difference between free market energy and greed. A very
fine
line, but it is there

... and crossed everyday.


Banks, ATMs and convenience stores, etc... are also robbed everyday.
Should we eliminate them?

I wasn't talking abojut robbery. But since you address the subjet:
when the poor use violence to rob the rich, it's illegal, when the rich
use small print to rob the poor, it's legal.



Small print illegal.
If a poor person buys a house he cannot afford, whose fault is that.
If you bought a camera you could not afford and you could not buy food
for
your family, would that be the fault of the camera salesman? - The credit
card company -- your bank because you withdrew your money to buy the
camera?
For what reason would it not be the fault of the purchaser of the home.
The
concept is accepting responsibility for one's own acts.

What may be illegal was packaging these high risk mortgages and selling
them
as mortgage backed securities, without adequate disclosure. Some of those
derivatives were so complex that it's almost impossible to decipher what
exactly they are.
What also may be illegal, civilly wrong, was selling derivatives while
taking a short position without disclosing the seller had more to gain if
the derivative went bad, while making a healthy profit on the sale.

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

And now they're putting pressure on the lenders to start giving zero-down
mortgages again! It's kind of funny that these clown in Congress indict
Roger Clemens for lying and he's threatened with 30 years while Charlie
Rangel will get a slap on the wrist from his colleagues for far worse.


The United States Government, Congress in particular, is truly "Alice in
Wonderland". Too many Bozos on that bus...

"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:23 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

It's difficult to dislike Rep. Barney Frank.

I don't find it difficult. Where's the difficulty?

The guy's got the best
sense of humor on Capitol Hill. He was on Steven Colbert's show
recently, and traded barbs with Colbert and held his own against one
of the funniest men on television.

Thrilling. If he'd spent the last decade or so on TV comedy shows instead of
promoting all those NINJA loans which started the collapse of our (and the
world's) economies, I might find him as likeable as you do.

Nor has Frank learned much, evidently. Only a few months ago he was trying
to pressure lenders into lowering their requirements for mortgages on
multi-unit buildings.

If he'd been captain of the Titanic he'd probably have wanted to turn the
ship around and hit the iceberg again.

"Neil Harrington" wrote in message
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:23 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

It's difficult to dislike Rep. Barney Frank.

I don't find it difficult. Where's the difficulty?

The guy's got the best
sense of humor on Capitol Hill. He was on Steven Colbert's show
recently, and traded barbs with Colbert and held his own against one
of the funniest men on television.

Thrilling. If he'd spent the last decade or so on TV comedy shows instead
of promoting all those NINJA loans which started the collapse of our (and
the world's) economies, I might find him as likeable as you do.

Nor has Frank learned much, evidently. Only a few months ago he was trying
to pressure lenders into lowering their requirements for mortgages on
multi-unit buildings.

If he'd been captain of the Titanic he'd probably have wanted to turn the
ship around and hit the iceberg again.



If you go swimming and drown in a rip tide, is it the fault of the car
dealer who sold you the car that got you there?

--
Peter

"Peter" wrote in message
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"Neil Harrington" wrote in message
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:23 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

It's difficult to dislike Rep. Barney Frank.

I don't find it difficult. Where's the difficulty?

The guy's got the best
sense of humor on Capitol Hill. He was on Steven Colbert's show
recently, and traded barbs with Colbert and held his own against one
of the funniest men on television.

Thrilling. If he'd spent the last decade or so on TV comedy shows instead
of promoting all those NINJA loans which started the collapse of our (and
the world's) economies, I might find him as likeable as you do.

Nor has Frank learned much, evidently. Only a few months ago he was
trying to pressure lenders into lowering their requirements for mortgages
on multi-unit buildings.

If he'd been captain of the Titanic he'd probably have wanted to turn the
ship around and hit the iceberg again.



If you go swimming and drown in a rip tide, is it the fault of the car
dealer who sold you the car that got you there?

I don't think so, but you've hit on a good idea: by all means, retire Barney
Frank from Congress and let him sell cars instead. He will almost certainly
continue to cheat people, but his victims will then be limited to his
customers instead of the whole country.

"Neil Harrington" wrote in message
news

"Peter" wrote in message
...
"Neil Harrington" wrote in message
...

"tony cooper" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:34:23 -0500, George Kerby
wrote:

But... But, Barney Frank said that Fanny Mae was "FINE"!?!

It's difficult to dislike Rep. Barney Frank.

I don't find it difficult. Where's the difficulty?

The guy's got the best
sense of humor on Capitol Hill. He was on Steven Colbert's show
recently, and traded barbs with Colbert and held his own against one
of the funniest men on television.

Thrilling. If he'd spent the last decade or so on TV comedy shows
instead of promoting all those NINJA loans which started the collapse of
our (and the world's) economies, I might find him as likeable as you do.

Nor has Frank learned much, evidently. Only a few months ago he was
trying to pressure lenders into lowering their requirements for
mortgages on multi-unit buildings.

If he'd been captain of the Titanic he'd probably have wanted to turn
the ship around and hit the iceberg again.



If you go swimming and drown in a rip tide, is it the fault of the car
dealer who sold you the car that got you there?

I don't think so, but you've hit on a good idea: by all means, retire
Barney Frank from Congress and let him sell cars instead. He will almost
certainly continue to cheat people, but his victims will then be limited
to his customers instead of the whole country.



Whoosh!

--
Peter