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Canon 50MP and Sony 42MP - who needs these cameras?
In article , RichA wrote:
Sandman: Well, there was a stream of MF shooters that flocked around the Nikon D800 when it was announced. But since then a lot of MF cameras have worked their way towards the strengths of the D800, like ISO. Medium Format isn't about megapixels, at least not only. It's about dynamic range and skin tones. And there's still a way to go for full format cameras until they match that. Plus, MF has so much superior glass available to them as well. While Nikon has a lot of really nice glass, it's not comparable to top of the line lenses from Hasselblad and the likes. Gary Eickmeier: It seems to me that the main advantage of the medium format of physical size of imager is in the area of low light photography - but curiously studio photogs don't need that! Sandman: And, as I said, digital medium format cameras are notoriously bad in low light. Only grossly expensive ones like Hasselblad and Phase. Check out the new Pentax. Yes, like I *also* said, newer MF cameras have far better ISO performance. This is still the exception, mainly because most MF cameras are still CCD. There is (at least) one Hasselblad with a CMOS sensor as well, but I know when it was released a lot of bladers frowned at it. CCD is a bit of a holy grail for MF shooters. -- Sandman |
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Canon 50MP and Sony 42MP - who needs these cameras?
In article , RichA wrote:
Sandman: Well, there was a stream of MF shooters that flocked around the Nikon D800 when it was announced. But since then a lot of MF cameras have worked their way towards the strengths of the D800, like ISO. Medium Format isn't about megapixels, at least not only. It's about dynamic range and skin tones. And there's still a way to go for full format cameras until they match that. Plus, MF has so much superior glass available to them as well. While Nikon has a lot of really nice glass, it's not comparable to top of the line lenses from Hasselblad and the likes. Gary Eickmeier: It seems to me that the main advantage of the medium format of physical size of imager is in the area of low light photography - but curiously studio photogs don't need that! Sandman: And, as I said, digital medium format cameras are notoriously bad in low light. RichA: Only grossly expensive ones like Hasselblad and Phase. Check out the new Pentax. Sandman: Yes, like I *also* said, newer MF cameras have far better ISO performance. This is still the exception, mainly because most MF cameras are still CCD. There is (at least) one Hasselblad with a CMOS sensor as well, but I know when it was released a lot of bladers frowned at it. CCD is a bit of a holy grail for MF shooters. Ah the sensor debate. CCD still supposedly is a better sensor if colour accuracy is your goal. Which it is for any MF shooter, for obvious reasons. There are a number of astronomy shooters who believe this and there was one person who said (I don't know the details) that the Nikon D5100 apparently had a very good sensor if accurately recording colour in a scene was paramount, for astronomical images anyway. Never heard of color accuracy being so important to astrophotographers. Dynamic range, however, is pretty important. For portrait photographers, the "holy CCD skin tone" is where most of the debate is at. -- Sandman |
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Canon 50MP and Sony 42MP - who needs these cameras?
On 2/07/2015 5:41 p.m., Sandman wrote:
In article , RichA wrote: Sandman: Well, there was a stream of MF shooters that flocked around the Nikon D800 when it was announced. But since then a lot of MF cameras have worked their way towards the strengths of the D800, like ISO. Medium Format isn't about megapixels, at least not only. It's about dynamic range and skin tones. And there's still a way to go for full format cameras until they match that. Plus, MF has so much superior glass available to them as well. While Nikon has a lot of really nice glass, it's not comparable to top of the line lenses from Hasselblad and the likes. Gary Eickmeier: It seems to me that the main advantage of the medium format of physical size of imager is in the area of low light photography - but curiously studio photogs don't need that! Sandman: And, as I said, digital medium format cameras are notoriously bad in low light. RichA: Only grossly expensive ones like Hasselblad and Phase. Check out the new Pentax. Sandman: Yes, like I *also* said, newer MF cameras have far better ISO performance. This is still the exception, mainly because most MF cameras are still CCD. There is (at least) one Hasselblad with a CMOS sensor as well, but I know when it was released a lot of bladers frowned at it. CCD is a bit of a holy grail for MF shooters. Ah the sensor debate. CCD still supposedly is a better sensor if colour accuracy is your goal. Which it is for any MF shooter, for obvious reasons. There are a number of astronomy shooters who believe this and there was one person who said (I don't know the details) that the Nikon D5100 apparently had a very good sensor if accurately recording colour in a scene was paramount, for astronomical images anyway. Never heard of color accuracy being so important to astrophotographers. Dynamic range, however, is pretty important. For portrait photographers, the "holy CCD skin tone" is where most of the debate is at. Even though it's complete and utter BS. Perhaps they'll get over it in a few years now that Hasselblad, Phase One etc have switched new designs to CMOS. |
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