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paul wrote:
Timo Autiokari wrote:

Please do:
1) dcraw -v -b 4 -3 test.nef (using the DCRAW itself)
2) Open the resulting test.psd into Photoshop
3) In Photoshop do Image/Mode/AssignProfile and choose the AIMRGBpro profile

That's what I did and it came out dark.

If you did it exactly like above then it does *not* come out as "dark"
*provided* that Photoshop color-management is working correctly.

Example:

From this page:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...ersion_01.html

you can download a D1 nef:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...yesStation.zip

If you do the above mentioned DCRAW conversion (steps 1) and open
resulting the PSD image to Photoshop that happens to have AdobeRGB
profile as the RGB working-space profile in the Color-Management setup
(step 2) then it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/wron...management.jpg

After you do the above step 3 it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/corr...management.jpg

Timo Autiokari

paul wrote:
Timo Autiokari wrote:

Please do:
1) dcraw -v -b 4 -3 test.nef (using the DCRAW itself)
2) Open the resulting test.psd into Photoshop
3) In Photoshop do Image/Mode/AssignProfile and choose the AIMRGBpro profile

That's what I did and it came out dark.

If you did it exactly like above then it does *not* come out as "dark"
*provided* that Photoshop color-management is working correctly.

Example:

From this page:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...ersion_01.html

you can download a D1 nef:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...yesStation.zip

If you do the above mentioned DCRAW conversion (steps 1) and open
resulting the PSD image to Photoshop that happens to have AdobeRGB
profile as the RGB working-space profile in the Color-Management setup
(step 2) then it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/wron...management.jpg

After you do the above step 3 it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/corr...management.jpg

Timo Autiokari

Timo Autiokari wrote:

Hi Paul,

eh, I found the bug why dcraw_c did not run with other than CRW files,
I'm very sorry about the trouble. Uploaded the v 1.3
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/digicam/dcraw/index.htm


Damn it man, I'm doomed g.

I get an error about photoshop 8 (CS) being unable to run in this
operating system (presumably from the bat file). It did run most of the
conversion up to there. Hmm actually I see now it choked on a space in
my path where the NEF resided as well.




Best to use from Irfanview (using the Open With an External Viewer
command) or Picasa2 (using the Open File command), please follow the
setup instruction on the above page. But you can of course use the
command line also like "dcraw_c full-path-to-the-raw-file". Must be
full path, including the drive letter even if you have copied the raw
file into the dcraw directory.

-there is no need to use the DOS command line at all.
-there is no need to copy raw files to any other locations.
-in case of conversion of a single raw file the created PSD file is
stored to the same directory where the original raw file is located
and is open to Photoshop automatically. In case the corresponding PSD
file exists, choice is given to open existing, to make a duplicate
(with another name), to re-convert or just quit. In case of
re-conversions it will ask for the confirmation twice.
-in case of batch conversion of a directory full of raw files the
created PSD files are simply saved to that directory. Does not
overwrite existing PSD files (convert only those that do not have the
corresponding PSD in that directory).

Timo Autiokari

Paul,

I have been waiting for your comment to my below example about "dark"
appearance of linear DCRAW conversion, have you not seen my post?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 20:51:10 +0200, Timo Autiokari
wrote:

Example:

From this page:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...ersion_01.html

you can download a D1 nef:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...yesStation.zip

If you do the above mentioned DCRAW conversion (steps 1) and open
resulting the PSD image to Photoshop that happens to have AdobeRGB
profile as the RGB working-space profile in the Color-Management setup
(step 2) then it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/wron...management.jpg

After you do the above step 3 it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/corr...management.jpg


Timo Autiokari

OK I tried again and now I see that I had not properly loaded that
profile. It needed to be copied over to
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Color\Profiles\
Simply navigating to it with Load doesn't make it stick in the list and
I chose the wrong "wide Gamut RGB' after that.

BTW it gives a significant border increase
3038x2012 vs 3008x2000
6 pixels added to the top & bottom, 15 pixels on both sides.

Here's a test:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/our-garden/more/2005-03-02-trillium-maple/more/test
The curves I applied in the end may be causing some of the differences
so I included the unadjusted unsharpened versions too in the 100% crop
comparison.


Timo Autiokari wrote:
Paul,

I have been waiting for your comment to my below example about "dark"
appearance of linear DCRAW conversion, have you not seen my post?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 20:51:10 +0200, Timo Autiokari
wrote:


Example:


From this page:

http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...ersion_01.html

you can download a D1 nef:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...yesStation.zip

If you do the above mentioned DCRAW conversion (steps 1) and open
resulting the PSD image to Photoshop that happens to have AdobeRGB
profile as the RGB working-space profile in the Color-Management setup
(step 2) then it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/wron...management.jpg

After you do the above step 3 it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/corr...management.jpg



Timo Autiokari

OK I tried again and now I see that I had not properly loaded that
profile. It needed to be copied over to
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Color\Profiles\
Simply navigating to it with Load doesn't make it stick in the list and
I chose the wrong "wide Gamut RGB' after that.

BTW it gives a significant border increase
3038x2012 vs 3008x2000
6 pixels added to the top & bottom, 15 pixels on both sides.

Here's a test:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/our-garden/more/2005-03-02-trillium-maple/more/test
The curves I applied in the end may be causing some of the differences
so I included the unadjusted unsharpened versions too in the 100% crop
comparison.


Timo Autiokari wrote:
Paul,

I have been waiting for your comment to my below example about "dark"
appearance of linear DCRAW conversion, have you not seen my post?

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 20:51:10 +0200, Timo Autiokari
wrote:


Example:


From this page:

http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...ersion_01.html

you can download a D1 nef:
http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop...yesStation.zip

If you do the above mentioned DCRAW conversion (steps 1) and open
resulting the PSD image to Photoshop that happens to have AdobeRGB
profile as the RGB working-space profile in the Color-Management setup
(step 2) then it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/wron...management.jpg

After you do the above step 3 it will look like this:
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/temp/corr...management.jpg



Timo Autiokari

"paul" wrote in message
...
SNIP
BTW it gives a significant border increase
3038x2012 vs 3008x2000
6 pixels added to the top & bottom, 15 pixels on both sides.

Yes it's a small bonus. Some of the converters do that, but it takes
the number of pixels for each dimension away from a multiple of 16.
That multiple is important for some types of JPEG compression that
work with blocks of 8 or 16 pixels.

Bart

Hi Paul,


On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:15:04 -0800, paul wrote:
Here's a test:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/our-garden/more/2005-03-02-trillium-maple/more/test

Good test, and interesting photo too! Again shows the excellent
DCRAW conversion result.

About DCRAW_C.BAT not launching the PS CS on your computer:

1) I updated the DCRAW_C.BAT again, this could possibly help, it does
not create a temporary bat file to run the actual converison (there is
a small but important change to the setup instructions due to this)
and works properly with all kind of raw files that DCRAW supports.
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/digicam/dcraw/index.htm

2) it could be due to the emulation mode you have selected for the DOS
box, if you remove the emulation I believe it could now work (I have
no access to PC CS so I have not yet had the ability to test this).

BR,
Timo

I could not tell what changed in the setup procedure. I did try turning
off compatibility mode.

If I open a single file with dcraw_c.bat right-click I get the same
cannot run photoshop under this operating system error.

If I run it at the command line on a raw file in the dcraw folder I get
first:

DCRAW IS CONVERTING TO PHOTOSHOP
-----------------
\.: No such file or directory (ENOENT)


Then a photoshop pop up error message after clicking OK to the New File
Dialogue box:
Photoshop:
Could not complete your request due to a program error.

The send-to option blinks away quicker than I can read.


Timo Autiokari wrote:

Hi Paul,


On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 09:15:04 -0800, paul wrote:

Here's a test:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/our-garden/more/2005-03-02-trillium-maple/more/test


Good test, and interesting photo too! Again shows the excellent
DCRAW conversion result.

About DCRAW_C.BAT not launching the PS CS on your computer:

1) I updated the DCRAW_C.BAT again, this could possibly help, it does
not create a temporary bat file to run the actual converison (there is
a small but important change to the setup instructions due to this)
and works properly with all kind of raw files that DCRAW supports.
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/digicam/dcraw/index.htm

2) it could be due to the emulation mode you have selected for the DOS
box, if you remove the emulation I believe it could now work (I have
no access to PC CS so I have not yet had the ability to test this).

BR,
Timo