Color profile question

Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees
on his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.
Thanks,
Nathan

Nathan Gutman wrote:
Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees
on his?

First question: is your monitor properly calibrated?

--
Derek Fountain on the web at http://www.derekfountain.org/

Derek Fountain wrote:
Nathan Gutman wrote:
Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees
on his?

First question: is your monitor properly calibrated?

Yes, it is.

Nathan Gutman wrote:
Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees
on his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.
Thanks,
Nathan

In order to see what he sees, you would need to use his caibration
device to calibrate your monitor (a different calibration device will
get you very close, but not exact). Unless your monitors were *very*
similar (not just same model), your monitor will not match his until
calibrated, and his calibration file will not work exactly on your
monitor.

Austin

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Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees on
his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.
Thanks,
Nathan

Hi there.

Neither you or your friend seem to have got the principles of Colour
Management into your thinking yet.

A monitor Calibration Profile is for ONE Specific Monitor only. Its purpose
is to correct the native colours and density of THAT Monitor.

After a Monitor has been Calibrated and Profiled, the Colours and Density of
any image should look exactly the same on THAT Monitor as they would on any
other Calibrated and Profiled Monitor.

If both you and your friend have Calibrated and Profiled Monitors, you will
already be seeing the same Colours and Density.

Roy G

"Nathan Gutman" wrote in message
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Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees on
his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.
Thanks,
Nathan

If his monitor is calibrated, and as you say in another reply yours is too,
what are either one of you trying to prove?

Roy G wrote:
"Nathan Gutman" wrote in message
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Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees on
his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.
Thanks,
Nathan

Hi there.

Neither you or your friend seem to have got the principles of Colour
Management into your thinking yet.

A monitor Calibration Profile is for ONE Specific Monitor only. Its purpose
is to correct the native colours and density of THAT Monitor.

After a Monitor has been Calibrated and Profiled, the Colours and Density of
any image should look exactly the same on THAT Monitor as they would on any
other Calibrated and Profiled Monitor.

If both you and your friend have Calibrated and Profiled Monitors, you will
already be seeing the same Colours and Density.

Roy G


I think I have got it! Does that mean that if his monitor has been
calibrated and mine was calibrated too I should see images in a similar
way that he sees them the difference being monitor workings, phosphors
used etc.
I thought that if I got his ICM file I could use it to proof an image
which would present itself to me as his monitor sees it.
I know that I need more education here and any of your help will greatly
appreciated.

"Nathan Gutman" wrote in message
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Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees on
his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.

Hi Nathan,

The only time installing your friend's profile for your display would work
is if you had identical monitors, calibration equipment, and display cards.
There are other ways to get what you want. If you both calibrate to the
same color temperature (6500K default) and gamma (2.2 default), you will get
as close to a perfect match on your screens as possible.

BTW it says something about the state of color management that, so far
anyway, you've received 5 (6 counting mine) completely different and
authoritative answers to your question. We've got a way to go before color
management becomes easy and automatic.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

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"Nathan Gutman" wrote in message
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Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees
on his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.

Hi Nathan,

The only time installing your friend's profile for your display would work
is if you had identical monitors, calibration equipment, and display
cards. There are other ways to get what you want. If you both calibrate
to the same color temperature (6500K default) and gamma (2.2 default), you
will get as close to a perfect match on your screens as possible.

BTW it says something about the state of color management that, so far
anyway, you've received 5 (6 counting mine) completely different and
authoritative answers to your question. We've got a way to go before
color management becomes easy and automatic.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

Sorry Mike,

I should have mentioned Colour Temp and Gamma settings, but I was assuming,
and nothing should be assumed, that they had already gone to these values as
part of their Calibration process.

Nathan.

If both Monitors are Calibrated and Profiled that will have taken care of
the differences due to phosphors and construction, etc. This is what
Calibration and Profiling is designed to do.

BTW, you do know that Monitors need to be re-calibrated every 2 or 3 months,
and that the ambient lighting should be kept constant.

Roy G

"Mike Russell" -MOVE wrote in message
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"Nathan Gutman" wrote in message
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Using WinXP SP2. A friend sent me an ICM file which resulted from
calibrating his monitor. Can I use it on my monitor to see what he sees
on his?
If this is possible then please be specific as I am a complete newbie on
this.

Hi Nathan,

The only time installing your friend's profile for your display would work
is if you had identical monitors, calibration equipment, and display
cards. There are other ways to get what you want. If you both calibrate
to the same color temperature (6500K default) and gamma (2.2 default), you
will get as close to a perfect match on your screens as possible.

BTW it says something about the state of color management that, so far
anyway, you've received 5 (6 counting mine) completely different and
authoritative answers to your question. We've got a way to go before
color management becomes easy and automatic.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/



You see 6? I don't see 6.