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Old October 20th 04, 11:05 PM
pet
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Default Nikon D70 or D100 w/ Metz flash

I am considering a Nikon D70 or D100.
Will my Metz 45CL4 work with either? Currently I use the SCA346/2AF
hotshoe adapter with my F4. Will this adapter work on either digital? If
so, is the adapter fully functional or limited?

Danke.
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Old October 21st 04, 02:18 AM
George
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I may find out in the next day or so...I have the D70 and the 45CL4
w/SCA346/2AF and
might need that much portable light on Friday night. It would be limited
with either the D70,
D2H, or D2X in that Metz does not (at least yet) support iTTL. I think it'd
work normally
(dTTL) with the older D100 though I have no way of testing that. If I do
use it and no one
else supplies an answer, I'll post back to this thread.

George

"pet" wrote in message
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I am considering a Nikon D70 or D100.
Will my Metz 45CL4 work with either? Currently I use the SCA346/2AF
hotshoe adapter with my F4. Will this adapter work on either digital? If
so, is the adapter fully functional or limited?

Danke.



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Old October 21st 04, 02:18 AM
George
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I may find out in the next day or so...I have the D70 and the 45CL4
w/SCA346/2AF and
might need that much portable light on Friday night. It would be limited
with either the D70,
D2H, or D2X in that Metz does not (at least yet) support iTTL. I think it'd
work normally
(dTTL) with the older D100 though I have no way of testing that. If I do
use it and no one
else supplies an answer, I'll post back to this thread.

George

"pet" wrote in message
news
I am considering a Nikon D70 or D100.
Will my Metz 45CL4 work with either? Currently I use the SCA346/2AF
hotshoe adapter with my F4. Will this adapter work on either digital? If
so, is the adapter fully functional or limited?

Danke.



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Old October 21st 04, 03:19 PM
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I have used an S-15 adapter on a D70, which only gives a PC socket
connection and no other automation. Supposedly external flashes will sync
1/250 (1/500 is norm for D70), but in my quick testing the external flash
sync'd up to 1/8000 - even illumination - but only part of the full flash
burst. ie 1/250s full duration of flash burst was recorded (full power on
GN 32 flash), 1/500 or higher only part of the flash burst caught, but
seemed to be even, not the expected horiz darkening from the vert. travel
shutter. Rear curtain sync also fine.

Not entirely related to your question, but the Metz45 is a nice unit - esp
when you use the joey flash with main bounce! Keep it and shoot manual, or
the semi-auto you get from setting aperture on the flash and letting it pick
the intensity...

Cheers, Jason (remove ... to reply)
Video & Gaming: http://gadgetaus.com
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Old October 21st 04, 03:19 PM
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I have used an S-15 adapter on a D70, which only gives a PC socket
connection and no other automation. Supposedly external flashes will sync
1/250 (1/500 is norm for D70), but in my quick testing the external flash
sync'd up to 1/8000 - even illumination - but only part of the full flash
burst. ie 1/250s full duration of flash burst was recorded (full power on
GN 32 flash), 1/500 or higher only part of the flash burst caught, but
seemed to be even, not the expected horiz darkening from the vert. travel
shutter. Rear curtain sync also fine.

Not entirely related to your question, but the Metz45 is a nice unit - esp
when you use the joey flash with main bounce! Keep it and shoot manual, or
the semi-auto you get from setting aperture on the flash and letting it pick
the intensity...

Cheers, Jason (remove ... to reply)
Video & Gaming: http://gadgetaus.com
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Old October 21st 04, 10:09 PM
Jeremy Nixon
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Gadgets wrote:

but in my quick testing the external flash sync'd up to 1/8000 - even
illumination - but only part of the full flash burst. ie 1/250s full
duration of flash burst was recorded (full power on GN 32 flash), 1/500
or higher only part of the flash burst caught, but seemed to be even,
not the expected horiz darkening from the vert. travel shutter.


There is no "travel" shutter; the D70 doesn't have a shutter where the
"slit" moves across the image plane at high speeds. At high shutter
speeds the mechanical shutter fires at 1/125 and an electronic shutter
is used to produce the higher speed. This is why the camera can flash
sync up to 1/500. So, what you saw was the expected result, since the
entire frame is in fact exposed at the same moment at all speeds.

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Jeremy |
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Old October 21st 04, 10:09 PM
Jeremy Nixon
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Gadgets wrote:

but in my quick testing the external flash sync'd up to 1/8000 - even
illumination - but only part of the full flash burst. ie 1/250s full
duration of flash burst was recorded (full power on GN 32 flash), 1/500
or higher only part of the flash burst caught, but seemed to be even,
not the expected horiz darkening from the vert. travel shutter.


There is no "travel" shutter; the D70 doesn't have a shutter where the
"slit" moves across the image plane at high speeds. At high shutter
speeds the mechanical shutter fires at 1/125 and an electronic shutter
is used to produce the higher speed. This is why the camera can flash
sync up to 1/500. So, what you saw was the expected result, since the
entire frame is in fact exposed at the same moment at all speeds.

--
Jeremy |
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Old October 21st 04, 10:09 PM
Jeremy Nixon
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Gadgets wrote:

but in my quick testing the external flash sync'd up to 1/8000 - even
illumination - but only part of the full flash burst. ie 1/250s full
duration of flash burst was recorded (full power on GN 32 flash), 1/500
or higher only part of the flash burst caught, but seemed to be even,
not the expected horiz darkening from the vert. travel shutter.


There is no "travel" shutter; the D70 doesn't have a shutter where the
"slit" moves across the image plane at high speeds. At high shutter
speeds the mechanical shutter fires at 1/125 and an electronic shutter
is used to produce the higher speed. This is why the camera can flash
sync up to 1/500. So, what you saw was the expected result, since the
entire frame is in fact exposed at the same moment at all speeds.

--
Jeremy |
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Old October 22nd 04, 02:57 PM
George
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OK, I've played with the combo you requested a bit in preparation for this
evening. I could not find any combo of settings that would enable TTL (and
didn't believe this was possible anyway). Both "Automatic" (using the
SCA346/2AF
sensor to determine exposure) and "Manual" (virtually the same as just using
the PC
sync socket except for the $$ you spent to do so) work fine and as expected.
It appears that for any use of a non-Nikon external flash, the custom
functions
must be set to "manual" flash. It would be nice if the SCA module at least
transferred
aperture info to the flash...

Good luck,
George

FWIW--I have also used my D70 with my Bowens Prolite 100 studio flashes
and that works great. Of course, that is in manual flash mode and I use
manual
exposure mode and a flashmeter...it is actually quite a bit more convenient
than
it sounds.

"George" wrote in message
...
I may find out in the next day or so...I have the D70 and the 45CL4
w/SCA346/2AF and
might need that much portable light on Friday night. It would be limited
with either the D70,
D2H, or D2X in that Metz does not (at least yet) support iTTL. I think

it'd
work normally
(dTTL) with the older D100 though I have no way of testing that. If I do
use it and no one
else supplies an answer, I'll post back to this thread.

George

"pet" wrote in message
news
I am considering a Nikon D70 or D100.
Will my Metz 45CL4 work with either? Currently I use the SCA346/2AF
hotshoe adapter with my F4. Will this adapter work on either digital?

If
so, is the adapter fully functional or limited?

Danke.





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Old October 22nd 04, 02:57 PM
George
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OK, I've played with the combo you requested a bit in preparation for this
evening. I could not find any combo of settings that would enable TTL (and
didn't believe this was possible anyway). Both "Automatic" (using the
SCA346/2AF
sensor to determine exposure) and "Manual" (virtually the same as just using
the PC
sync socket except for the $$ you spent to do so) work fine and as expected.
It appears that for any use of a non-Nikon external flash, the custom
functions
must be set to "manual" flash. It would be nice if the SCA module at least
transferred
aperture info to the flash...

Good luck,
George

FWIW--I have also used my D70 with my Bowens Prolite 100 studio flashes
and that works great. Of course, that is in manual flash mode and I use
manual
exposure mode and a flashmeter...it is actually quite a bit more convenient
than
it sounds.

"George" wrote in message
...
I may find out in the next day or so...I have the D70 and the 45CL4
w/SCA346/2AF and
might need that much portable light on Friday night. It would be limited
with either the D70,
D2H, or D2X in that Metz does not (at least yet) support iTTL. I think

it'd
work normally
(dTTL) with the older D100 though I have no way of testing that. If I do
use it and no one
else supplies an answer, I'll post back to this thread.

George

"pet" wrote in message
news
I am considering a Nikon D70 or D100.
Will my Metz 45CL4 work with either? Currently I use the SCA346/2AF
hotshoe adapter with my F4. Will this adapter work on either digital?

If
so, is the adapter fully functional or limited?

Danke.





 




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