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Old March 30th 05, 02:28 AM
grenner
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Default New Canon EF-S 60mm F2.8 Macro?

I spoke with a Canon rep last weekend at local photo store and he said it is
due out the end of April.

Greg
"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:09:01 GMT, John A. Stovall
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Has anyone actual seen one of these?

Here's the link...

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/pd...FLensChart.pdf


A better link.

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...ode lid=11156


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Old March 30th 05, 04:46 AM
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"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:09:01 GMT, John A. Stovall
wrote:

Has anyone actual seen one of these?

Here's the link...

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/pd...FLensChart.pdf


A better link.


http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...ode lid=11156



Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

Does anyone know, when this one will be available ?


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Old March 30th 05, 04:46 AM
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"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:09:01 GMT, John A. Stovall
wrote:

Has anyone actual seen one of these?

Here's the link...

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/pd...FLensChart.pdf


A better link.


http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...ode lid=11156



Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

Does anyone know, when this one will be available ?


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Old March 30th 05, 10:22 AM
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Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.
(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being reckoned
to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm will
not be as expected from Sigma.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as the
Sigma.....


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Old March 30th 05, 03:51 PM
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In article , Tumbleweed
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Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.


Actually nearer half a stop (0.62 stops to be picky, but these things
are not that precise).

(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being reckoned
to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm will
not be as expected from Sigma.


It will also work on a 35mm film body or a full-frame sensor body (1D/s
series). The Sigma 30mm will, as admitted by Sigma, not cover the full
field of such cameras.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.


The only lenses I have ever had problems with have been Sigma ones.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as the
Sigma.....


David
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Old March 30th 05, 03:51 PM
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In article , Tumbleweed
writes
Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.


Actually nearer half a stop (0.62 stops to be picky, but these things
are not that precise).

(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being reckoned
to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm will
not be as expected from Sigma.


It will also work on a 35mm film body or a full-frame sensor body (1D/s
series). The Sigma 30mm will, as admitted by Sigma, not cover the full
field of such cameras.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.


The only lenses I have ever had problems with have been Sigma ones.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as the
Sigma.....


David
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David Littlewood
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Old March 31st 05, 07:29 PM
Lester Wareham
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.
(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being
reckoned to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm
will not be as expected from Sigma.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as the
Sigma.....


According to the Canon MTF data neither of the two 28mm lenses are that
sharp. Either of the 24mm are better but best is one of the 35mm.


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Old March 31st 05, 07:29 PM
Lester Wareham
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.
(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being
reckoned to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm
will not be as expected from Sigma.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as the
Sigma.....


According to the Canon MTF data neither of the two 28mm lenses are that
sharp. Either of the 24mm are better but best is one of the 35mm.


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Old March 31st 05, 11:16 PM
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In article , Lester Wareham
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
...
Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.
(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being
reckoned to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm
will not be as expected from Sigma.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as the
Sigma.....


According to the Canon MTF data neither of the two 28mm lenses are that
sharp. Either of the 24mm are better but best is one of the 35mm.


Well, according to the "EF Lens Work III" book published by Canon, the
various 20, 24, 28 and 35mm EF lenses all look fairly similar, except
that the two L lenses (24/1.4 and 35/1.4) hold their performance better
to the edge of the frame. In view of their price and exotic design, this
is as it should be.

I have the 35/1.4, and it is indeed an excellent lens. I thought however
that it would be a bit expensive for the OP.

David
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Old April 2nd 05, 07:02 AM
Lester Wareham
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"David Littlewood" wrote in message
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In article , Lester Wareham
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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
...
Personally, I am more excited about this 30mm f/1.4 sigma lens:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...00&navigator=6

The 30mm focal length on my 20D will behave the same as the very
popular
50mm primes on the 35mm SLRs, and f/1.4 is just awesome for low light
shooting.

The Canon EF 28 1.8 is around already and is excellent.
It's pretty much the same F.O.V and 1 stop slower.
(Out of interest, 50mm was a compromise "standard" with 45mm being
reckoned to be closer to "eyeball" FOV)

The build quality is as to be expected from Canon - hopefully the 30mm
will not be as expected from Sigma.

In termes of usability the 1.8 will give you the bright viewfinder and
shallow DOF you crave.
It will also be less of a risk.

Finally, I'll bet you can find a used one for around the same cost as
the
Sigma.....


According to the Canon MTF data neither of the two 28mm lenses are that
sharp. Either of the 24mm are better but best is one of the 35mm.


Well, according to the "EF Lens Work III" book published by Canon, the
various 20, 24, 28 and 35mm EF lenses all look fairly similar, except that
the two L lenses (24/1.4 and 35/1.4) hold their performance better to the
edge of the frame. In view of their price and exotic design, this is as it
should be.

I have the 35/1.4, and it is indeed an excellent lens. I thought however
that it would be a bit expensive for the OP.

David
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David Littlewood


I would not agree with your view of the MTF charts. The 28mm f2.8 is OK for
APS-C but of course no USM. The 24mm f1.4 is much better than the 28mm f1.8
particularly over the centre of the frame. Both the 35mm have the best
performance.

Thus my statement that if you want performance at a low cost and don't need
USM and FT-M go for the 35mm f2.

I agree if you must have a wider view then the 24mm f2.8 and 28mm f2.8 have
similar performance for APS-C but the 24mm better for full frame 35mm.

The main thrust of the response was to warn that the 28mm f1.8 is not the
sharpest lens about from Canon's own data.

This is most obvious if you overlay the MTF data for various lenses. Take a
look at http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photog...ction.htm#28mm.

Lester



 




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