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[SI] The DaveŠ's flower comments
The DaveŠ's comments:
Not picking on anybody, but offering honest thoughts even though they may come off as harsh to some. Tully Albrecht: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992453 I also thought this was an asparagus at first glance. For me, the lighting and colors, and even background, do nothing for me. It makes me think pastel-fake, to make up a phrase. I think a shallower depth of field to blur the background would help. Plus, probably a different color background, if possible, to contrast and set the plant out more. As such, it all blends together a bit too much. Michelo: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992455 This one is my favorite of the group. Detail, light, shadows, etc. The noise actually enhances it, IMHO, and gives a 'feel' or 'mood' all it's own. Mike Benveniste: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992456 I love the concept behind this, and almost wish I had thought of it. You mention the flowers didn't hold up well in the freezing, which is unfortunate. For me, I think it would have worked better if the ice weren't so cloudy. I love the contrast of blue with a splash of yellow against the stark coldness of the ice. The contrast is more than just color, and a great concept. I might even try it myself someday. The DaveŠ (mine): http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992458 I like it. What else am I supposed to say? :-) Paul Campbell: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992459 Sunflowers in black-and-white instead of color. I like that you "broke the rules", would like it better if the focus and contrast were better. This one, I think, would benefit from a deeper depth of field and more detail at least in the center of the larger flower. Jim Kramer: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992460 Loved the thumbnail. Viewed the full-size, and... eh. I've been thinking lately about trying something with fake flowers myself, maybe to catch the texture or something. Douglas Macdonald: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91999146 A picture of a picture. Eh. I actually like the border treatment, though, and the flowers themselves. The light on the leaves in the background is too harsh, and distracts a bit. Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/92002759 A little more depth would help, but otherwise I like it. I'm not quite sure if I should be looking at the blue flower or the green bud. Troy Piggins: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/92042664 The flower itself needs to be sharper, though I'm sure that would have forced a longer exposure resulting in the bee's wings being blurred. Still, a necessary trade-off, I think. Then again, maybe the entire bee would have been blurred, at which point there's a choice to be made. Instead of 1/250s @ f11 @ ISO400, maybe 1/250s @ f16 @ ISO800, or something similar. Any potential extra noise from the ISO800 would have been acceptable for this shot, IMHO. |
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On Jan 25, 5:48 pm, The Dave(c) wrote:
The Dave(c)'s comments: Not picking on anybody, but offering honest thoughts even though they may come off as harsh to some. Jim Kramer:http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992460 Loved the thumbnail. Viewed the full-size, and... eh. I've been thinking lately about trying something with fake flowers myself, maybe to catch the texture or something. Oh... the brutality. :-) I actually intended to grab some real flowers the day before, but got distracted and didn't. Then I didn't feel like spending the money on the gas to go and get some flowers. Oh well, I shall continue to work on my horrible photography and try to improve on lack of compositional skills, but being such a lazy sloth; I wouldn't expect to see any improvement anytime soon. :-) I actually like the IR highlights on the fabric of the flowers, and shooting in IR and B&W covered up the dust nicely. :-) Can't wait for late spring to try it on a real rose. Thanks for commenting. |
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JimKramer wrote:
On Jan 25, 5:48 pm, The Dave(c) wrote: The Dave(c)'s comments: Not picking on anybody, but offering honest thoughts even though they may come off as harsh to some. Jim Kramer:http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992460 Loved the thumbnail. Viewed the full-size, and... eh. I've been thinking lately about trying something with fake flowers myself, maybe to catch the texture or something. Oh... the brutality. :-) I actually intended to grab some real flowers the day before, but got distracted and didn't. Then I didn't feel like spending the money on the gas to go and get some flowers. Oh well, I shall continue to work on my horrible photography and try to improve on lack of compositional skills, but being such a lazy sloth; I wouldn't expect to see any improvement anytime soon. :-) I actually like the IR highlights on the fabric of the flowers, and shooting in IR and B&W covered up the dust nicely. :-) Can't wait for late spring to try it on a real rose. Thanks for commenting. Thank you for not taking unnecessary offense. Anyway, truth be told, except for some of the stuff Brett has posted here, I've never been a huge fan of IR photography, so I'm probably biased even before I see it. It is intriging, in a way, I will say that. Then again, if I understand correctly, Brett does some manipulation with skies and the such that they're not true IR... which seems to defeat the purpose, although they can look quite good. Oh, and on the subject of lazy slothfulness... if I had a nickel for every time I bought flowers specifically to photographs, then let them die without ever taking a shot... well, you get the idea. LOL! |
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[SI] The DaveŠ's flower comments
The DaveŠ wrote:
Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/92002759 A little more depth would help, but otherwise I like it. I'm not quite sure if I should be looking at the blue flower or the green bud. Thanks for commenting. I was already at ISO 800, plus the background would have become distracting. I could have brought a tripod & fiddled with positions more :-) It's a little bit awkward composition, or just not that striking but it shows the plant, leaf & flower with a pleasant background. That's what I do at work with the camera, plant portraits for an online catalog: http://www.baynatives.com |
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On Jan 25, 6:39*pm, The DaveŠ wrote:
JimKramer wrote: On Jan 25, 5:48 pm, The Dave(c) wrote: The Dave(c)'s comments: Not picking on anybody, but offering honest thoughts even though they may come off as harsh to some. Jim Kramer:http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992460 Loved the thumbnail. *Viewed the full-size, and... eh. *I've been thinking lately about trying something with fake flowers myself, maybe to catch the texture or something. Oh... the brutality. :-) I actually intended to grab some real flowers the day before, but got distracted and didn't. *Then I didn't feel like spending the money on the gas to go and get some flowers. *Oh well, I shall continue to work on my horrible photography and try to improve on lack of compositional skills, but being such a lazy sloth; I wouldn't expect to see any improvement anytime soon. :-) I actually like the IR highlights on the fabric of the flowers, and shooting in IR and B&W covered up the dust nicely. :-) Can't wait for late spring to try it on a real rose. Thanks for commenting. Thank you for not taking unnecessary offense. Anyway, truth be told, except for some of the stuff Brett has posted here, I've never been a huge fan of IR photography, so I'm probably biased even before I see it. *It is intriging, in a way, I will say that. *Then again, if I understand correctly, Brett does some manipulation with skies and the such that they're not true IR... which seems to defeat the purpose, although they can look quite good. Oh, and on the subject of lazy slothfulness... if I had a nickel for every time I bought flowers specifically to photographs, then let them die without ever taking a shot... well, you get the idea. *LOL!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I like good IR photography; problem is there is little of it out there. I don't like the false color sky. IR should be B&W. Have a look at http://www.drookerphotography.com/ Sorry it is all Flash. But look at the American Ruins section under his portfolio. That, I like. |
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[SI] The DaveŠ's flower comments
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:48:16 GMT, The DaveŠ wrote:
Mike Benveniste: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992456 I love the concept behind this, and almost wish I had thought of it. You mention the flowers didn't hold up well in the freezing, which is unfortunate. For me, I think it would have worked better if the ice weren't so cloudy. Thanks for the kind words. I used bottled water in hopes of keeping it clearer, but I guess I should have boiled it first. -- Michael Benveniste -- Spam and UCE professionally evaluated for $419. Use this email address only to submit mail for evaluation. |
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On Jan 26, 2:50 pm, Michael Benveniste
wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:48:16 GMT, The DaveŠ wrote: For me, I think it would have worked better if the ice weren't so cloudy. Thanks for the kind words. I used bottled water in hopes of keeping it clearer, but I guess I should have boiled it first. -- Michael Benveniste Bottled as in 'spring' water? Not a good choice - you want stuff without dissolved solids/gases. Use distilled or R-O water and boil it, then you should get better results. |
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* The DaveŠ is quoted & my replies are inline below :
The DaveŠ's comments: Not picking on anybody, but offering honest thoughts even though they may come off as harsh to some. Appreciate you comments, however they come off Tully Albrecht: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992453 I also thought this was an asparagus at first glance. For me, the lighting and colors, and even background, do nothing for me. It makes me think pastel-fake, to make up a phrase. I think a shallower depth of field to blur the background would help. Plus, probably a different color background, if possible, to contrast and set the plant out more. As such, it all blends together a bit too much. The lighting looked a bit harsh to me. It's dead centre and the tip is just out of frame. Unusual flower/plant, but maybe different composition might be interesting? Michelo: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992455 This one is my favorite of the group. Detail, light, shadows, etc. The noise actually enhances it, IMHO, and gives a 'feel' or 'mood' all it's own. I liked this one too. For similar reasons. Mike Benveniste: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992456 I love the concept behind this, and almost wish I had thought of it. You mention the flowers didn't hold up well in the freezing, which is unfortunate. For me, I think it would have worked better if the ice weren't so cloudy. I love the contrast of blue with a splash of yellow against the stark coldness of the ice. The contrast is more than just color, and a great concept. I might even try it myself someday. It's a shame the idea didn't pay off completely. Suppose it's all about trial and error... The DaveŠ (mine): http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992458 I like it. What else am I supposed to say? :-) I like it too. It does miss something, but not sure what. I'm too new to photography and composition to put my finger on it. Paul Campbell: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992459 Sunflowers in black-and-white instead of color. I like that you "broke the rules", would like it better if the focus and contrast were better. This one, I think, would benefit from a deeper depth of field and more detail at least in the center of the larger flower. I like the composition of this one, and the different B&W treatment. Jim Kramer: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91992460 Loved the thumbnail. Viewed the full-size, and... eh. I've been thinking lately about trying something with fake flowers myself, maybe to catch the texture or something. The thumbnail is deceptive, isn't it Douglas Macdonald: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/91999146 A picture of a picture. Eh. I actually like the border treatment, though, and the flowers themselves. The light on the leaves in the background is too harsh, and distracts a bit. I'm not sure about the border treatment. Agree about the light on the leaves. For a commercial picture, I would have expected the flowers themselves to be pristine - they seem to have some brown edges and a little wilty? Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/92002759 A little more depth would help, but otherwise I like it. I'm not quite sure if I should be looking at the blue flower or the green bud. Don't mind this one either, but all the noise is distracting. Troy Piggins: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/92042664 The flower itself needs to be sharper, though I'm sure that would have forced a longer exposure resulting in the bee's wings being blurred. Still, a necessary trade-off, I think. Then again, maybe the entire bee would have been blurred, at which point there's a choice to be made. Instead of 1/250s @ f11 @ ISO400, maybe 1/250s @ f16 @ ISO800, or something similar. Any potential extra noise from the ISO800 would have been acceptable for this shot, IMHO. Thanks for commenting. Personally I was pretty happy with this shot. I know it's not just flowers, but as I understand the Shoot-In rulz, it's open to interpretation. To me the photo tells a story - the hoverfly and the flower, the spider and the hoverfly. Don't know if you've ever shot macro or something like a bee or hoverfly in flight, but getting just them in focus is tricky, let alone the spider as well. There was a lot of luck here getting both spider and hf in same focal plane. I was actually photographing the hf and flowers just practising when I noticed the spider in corner of frame. Reckon I had 3 seconds max to compose, focus and get the shot before the hf flew off. It's one my favourite photos I've taken. Thanks again. -- Troy Piggins Please feel free to provide constructive criticism on any photos I post. I'm always learning and appreciate feedback. |
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On Jan 27, 3:19 am, The DaveŠ wrote:
wrote: On Jan 26, 2:50 pm, Michael Benveniste wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:48:16 GMT, The DaveŠ wrote: For me, I think it would have worked better if the ice weren't so cloudy. Thanks for the kind words. I used bottled water in hopes of keeping it clearer, but I guess I should have boiled it first. -- Michael Benveniste Bottled as in 'spring' water? Not a good choice - you want stuff without dissolved solids/gases. Use distilled or R-O water and boil it, then you should get better results. That's good info, and confirms some of my unrelated experience. I have an RO system for drinking water in my home, and it's also connected to the ice maker. Quite often, but not always, the ice cubes come out very clear. Yep, it's a black art! The key is slow freezing, along with no impurities or dissolved gases. Problem is, some gases will dissolve back into water even as it is sitting in the freezer, so it is very difficult to get consistent results with ice cubes/uncovered containers. And of course if you completely fill and seal a bottle (unless it is expandable/flexible) it will probably not survive as the water expands to become ice... (O; |
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