Yet another Photograph

On 2014-11-13 20:02:17 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 06:49:15 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 14:30:15 +0000, PeterN said:

On 11/13/2014 9:08 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-11-13 09:10:20 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg


Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

There seem to be some saturation issues, so I have a few questions:

I see you used the G12, did you shoot RAW+JPEG?

Did you use any scene mode which might boost saturation of the JPEG in
the G12?

Since you used Lightroom for this shot, did you look for saturation
clipping?

Did you use any *Basic Panel* adjustments?
Have both *Vibrance* & *Saturation* been pushed up? If so, you might
find that pulling back on *Saturation* a tad should balance things up.
*Vibrance* will only adjust areas where saturation is low. whereas
*Saturation* acts globally.


Being it is an Asian style building, I think the highly satruated look
belongs there. Though I do have a problem with the sky.

I have less of an issue with the sky, than I have with the over saturated reds.

The reds are right. That's what caught my eye in the first place.

OK!

Though the sky seems to lend towards a mild turquoise, which might come
from the use of an inappropriate scene mode in the G12.

The sky was more or less that colour. It was the end of the day and
the sky was fading.

OK!

I don't think
that image was captured RAW, and there is always the temptation to use
some or other scene mode with a compact camera.

There also seems to be a fair amount of in-camera NR, and with those
reds & yellows, the auto WB could be off a tad. This is where having a
RAW file to work from could solve a whole slew of issues.

I used NR in LR when sharpening.

There is an LR trick when using LR NR or Sharpening. With NR, zoom in
1:1, hold done the alt/option key as you move the sliders, then you
will see a greyed image and any noise. Only increase the NR until it is
reduced in the grey image. That way the NR will not be over don to
reduce detail. Mostly you will only have to use the luminosity NR. Only
use the color NR if there is obvious color noise in the shadows.

With LR sharpening holding down the alt/option key you will see areas
such as sky and other color fields which do not need to be sharpened as
you slide the *Mask* slider to the right.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The differences between the old and new versions of the image are
subtle and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences between the old and new versions of the image are
subtle and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014-11-13 23:45:33 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences

between the old and new versions of the image are
subtle and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

Taking a closer look there is quite a bit of CA through the tree/sky
boundary through the leaves, and along the building/sky boundary.
That is easily fixed in the *Lens Correction* panel color adjustment.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:45:33 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences between the old and new versions of the image are
subtle and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

This may be a bit more than a tweak - from 33 to 40
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%203.jpg
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2014-11-14 00:58:17 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:45:33 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences

between the old and new versions of the image are
subtle and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

This may be a bit more than a tweak - from 33 to 40
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%203.jpg

Yup!

That was hardly noticeable tweak. Perhaps a bit more than a tweak say
to +55-60.

Then there is still the CA issue. Take a look at the gold spire on the
right and the leaf/sky boundary, you will see what I mean.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...nshot_1020.jpg

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014-11-14 01:14:18 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-11-14 00:58:17 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:45:33 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences between the old and new versions of the image are subtle
and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

This may be a bit more than a tweak - from 33 to 40
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%203.jpg

Yup!
That

was hardly noticeable tweak. Perhaps a bit more than a tweak say to +55-60.

Then there is still the CA issue. Take a look at the gold spire on the
right and the leaf/sky boundary, you will see what I mean.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...nshot_1020.jpg

I tried to correct the CA and that was a fruitless exercise. The RAW
file would have been nice to have.

I suggest setting your G12 to shoot RAW+JPEG in the future. The only
thing to remember is the Canon compacts will default to JPEG only if
you use Auto, or any of the scene modes.
I have my G11 set to shoot RAW+JPEG, and use Av, Tv, or P modes.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014-11-14 01:31:47 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-11-14 01:14:18 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-11-14 00:58:17 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:45:33 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences between the old and new versions of the image are subtle
and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

This may be a bit more than a tweak - from 33 to 40
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%203.jpg

Yup!

That was hardly noticeable tweak. Perhaps a bit more than a tweak say
to +55-60.

Then there is still the CA issue. Take a look at the gold spire on the
right and the leaf/sky boundary, you will see what I mean.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...nshot_1020.jpg

I tried to correct the CA and that was a fruitless exercise. The RAW
file would have been nice to have.

I suggest setting your G12 to shoot RAW+JPEG in the future. The only
thing to remember is the Canon compacts will default to JPEG only if
you use Auto, or any of the scene modes.
I have my G11 set to shoot RAW+JPEG, and use Av, Tv, or P modes.

The Canon G Series of compact cameras produce more than acceptable
images if used with a bit of thought. I still consider my G11 my
"lifeboat" camera and for close ups and wide shots when I have the
D300S fitted with a long lens, at an airshow for example. There I have
the G11 hanging conveniently from my neck. It is interesting what can
be done with a measly 10MP.
https://db.tt/z37G7laC

I am still considering the Fujifilm X-E2 as a light weight alternative camera.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:14:18 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-14 00:58:17 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:45:33 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences

between the old and new versions of the image are
subtle and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

This may be a bit more than a tweak - from 33 to 40
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%203.jpg

Yup!

That was hardly noticeable tweak. Perhaps a bit more than a tweak say
to +55-60.

Then there is still the CA issue. Take a look at the gold spire on the
right and the leaf/sky boundary, you will see what I mean.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...nshot_1020.jpg

I took something out with the fringe selector but there is still a
visible fringe left. LR says its not purple or green. It's not noise.
What else leaves fringes?
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:31:47 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-14 01:14:18 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2014-11-14 00:58:17 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:45:33 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-11-13 23:23:18 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:56:04 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:10:20 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:02:37 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:09:37 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg

Nice image. It just so happens that two Danes are in the other room
as I type this. No, not Popinjay...my brother and his wife are
visiting. They took us to Tivoli on one of our visits there.

Colour doesn't look right, somehow. Overdone.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the labyrinth leading from
http://cameratico.com/guides/firefox-color-management/

Very interesting: very helpful: a must read for those interested in
the color accuracy of images obtained vi a web browser on their
screen. It's not just Firefox.

Even more interesting. I normally recalibrate my monitors every month.
Usually there is little change from one recalibration to the next.
This time I was about a month overdue. To my surprise, screen
brightness had changed enormously on both and my #2 monitor in
particular needed a considerable bump up. Further, and now for the
first time, they appear to have identical calibrated characteristics
(93% aRGB).

Then I followed the advice of the link I gave above. I found my
Firefox failed all kinds of tests but, fortunately, it was only a
matter changing a number of settings. Now it passes all the tests and
I can understand why the image of the Chinese theatre I was seeing
from Dropbox didn't look quite like the one I was seeing in LR (on the
other monitor, I might add). I have now slightly reduced the red and
the green in the image and you can find the new version in:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%202.jpg

The

differences between the old and new versions of the image are subtle
and hard to see. But no doubt, what I was previously seeing in
LR and FF were two quite different things. Now they are very similar,
although FF still has slightly richer colors. However, the fluorescent
yellow has now gone.

The whole thing has been a salutory lesson on the importance of
properly calibrating and setting up equipment if you are going to get
critical about color accuracy. I knew I was behind with my monitor
calibration but it was bit of shock to discover I hadn't given any
thought to setting up my browser.

I think all it needs now is a tiny contrast, or Clarity bump, not much,
and probably not both. I would try a Clarity tweak first.

This may be a bit more than a tweak - from 33 to 40
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...nhagen%203.jpg

Yup!
That

was hardly noticeable tweak. Perhaps a bit more than a tweak say to +55-60.

Then there is still the CA issue. Take a look at the gold spire on the
right and the leaf/sky boundary, you will see what I mean.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...nshot_1020.jpg

I tried to correct the CA and that was a fruitless exercise.

That's good to know. I've just had a similar experience (see my other
post).

The RAW file would have been nice to have.

At the time I didn't have CC.

I suggest setting your G12 to shoot RAW+JPEG in the future. The only
thing to remember is the Canon compacts will default to JPEG only if
you use Auto, or any of the scene modes.
I have my G11 set to shoot RAW+JPEG, and use Av, Tv, or P modes.

I don't have to worry about that since I gave it to my wife. I just
didn't like it.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens