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Old November 14th 14, 05:10 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2014-11-14 03:23:20 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:31:47 -0800, Savageduck
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I tried to correct the CA and that was a fruitless exercise.


That's good to know. I've just had a similar experience (see my other
post).

The RAW file would have been nice to have.


At the time I didn't have CC.

I suggest setting your G12 to shoot RAW+JPEG in the future. The only
thing to remember is the Canon compacts will default to JPEG only if
you use Auto, or any of the scene modes.
I have my G11 set to shoot RAW+JPEG, and use Av, Tv, or P modes.


I don't have to worry about that since I gave it to my wife. I just
didn't like it.


My big gripe with the G11 is, with my big hands and my Nikon muscle
memory, make handling it awkward at times. my thumb is always
activating the flash selector. That is one of the reasons I am seeking
out an alternative lightweight, and have yet to settle on something.
Other than the weight I like my Nikon DSLRs.

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Old November 14th 14, 10:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:10:32 -0800, Savageduck
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On 2014-11-14 03:23:20 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:31:47 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:



I tried to correct the CA and that was a fruitless exercise.


That's good to know. I've just had a similar experience (see my other
post).

The RAW file would have been nice to have.


At the time I didn't have CC.

I suggest setting your G12 to shoot RAW+JPEG in the future. The only
thing to remember is the Canon compacts will default to JPEG only if
you use Auto, or any of the scene modes.
I have my G11 set to shoot RAW+JPEG, and use Av, Tv, or P modes.


I don't have to worry about that since I gave it to my wife. I just
didn't like it.


My big gripe with the G11 is, with my big hands and my Nikon muscle
memory, make handling it awkward at times. my thumb is always
activating the flash selector. That is one of the reasons I am seeking
out an alternative lightweight, and have yet to settle on something.
Other than the weight I like my Nikon DSLRs.


That was another reason why I didn't like the G12. It wasn't the main
reason, which was the way the menu system kept hiding items acording
to the way the camera was already configured. The fact that I have no
possible need for the adjustment of XYZ right now shouldn't mean that
the menu hides it from me and prevents me from adjusting it in
anticipation of what I plan to do next.

There was one item, I forget quite what, where I struggled for days to
find it so that I could set it for what I wanted to do. I think it was
something to do with bracketing but I'm not now sure. I even took the
problem to a professional who used a G11, and even he couldn't find
whatever it was. Eventually I discovered that the seting only became
visible when you set the camera in a mode which actually used it. The
menu system was full of things like that. I hated it.
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Old November 16th 14, 12:00 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 11/13/14 PDT, 12:06 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:26:01 -0500, PeterN wrote:

On 11/12/2014 10:09 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
One from my archives. The Chinese concert hall one fine evening in the
Tivoli gardens in Copenhagen.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Copenhagen.jpg


Nice color. It's nice to see that you didn't make the typical ceneterd
I've been there image. Only a nit, was the sky Siskerized?


I don't know what you mean by 'Siskerised', although I suspect I have
already been told.

Nothing much was done to the sky, maybe a nudge of blue.


Based on my visit two years ago, they've either painted the structure,
or saturation is quite high in my recollection. I had hoped I had one to
compare, but sadly I have only memories to compare.
A fine photo, but if it were mine, I'd lower the sat.
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Old November 16th 14, 04:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 08:55:51 +1300, Eric Stevens
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Did you use any scene mode which might boost saturation of the JPEG in the G12?


No

Since you used Lightroom for this shot, did you look for saturation clipping?


No. It looked OK on my screen via LR. It's only when it comes back to
me via Dropbox and Firefox that it looks overdone. The problem seems
to be mainly in the yellow.

Did you use any *Basic Panel* adjustments?
Have both *Vibrance* & *Saturation* been pushed up? If so, you might
find that pulling back on *Saturation* a tad should balance things up.
*Vibrance* will only adjust areas where saturation is low. whereas
*Saturation* acts globally.


There was a little done there but not much. The point is that it
looked OK at that stage. My monitors are overdue for recalibrating but
I wouldn't think it could affect things to a great extent.

I've got two monitors and I edited the image in LR using #1 and viewed
it later with FF in #2. I wondered if the monitors were sufficiently
different to cause the problem so I swapped them across the screens.
There was a very slight difference but it was only _very_ slight.

The only patch of yellow that seems to be possibly overdone is the
awning over the stage. All the other yellows seem to be OK and about
as I remember them. Maybe there is a call for a very slight area
adjustment.


I've just discovered
http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/impri...mRGB_Space.pdf
or http://tinyurl.com/lk2jmlh

This is very interesting and relevant to the topic of how and why the
colours of your image look the way they do on the monitor. Quite apart
from all the usual stuff, it seems that LR uses a unique color space
known as MellissaRGB which PhotoProRGB with a Gamma of 1. Note that it
does not use this to display images. To make matters more complicated,
it can be using a different color space in Library mode from what it
will offer you in Develop mode. If your image is displayed by
Photoshop it will look slightly different again. Finally, if in
Windows (I don't know about Mac) you use Windows explorer to look at
your images you will get yet another different interpretation of the
colour space.

Goes off scratching his head.
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Eric Stevens
 




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