EXIF layered on to image?

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

I am using Widows 7 and CS 2015.

I am curious about how you were able to copy/paste the Camera Data
onto an image. I was unable to copy the panel by any means.

click on the text, drag-select, then copy. it's very easy.

http://i.imgur.com/EQXNVRY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M9nOTnx.jpg

they're active static text items, (as opposed to editable text item or
a completely inactive control), which are filled in when the panel is
invoked.

This is a screen shot of that panel open:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ij2ktrl00..._1040.jpg?dl=0

Even if it was copyable, pasting onto an image as a layer would make
the layer below it not visible since the panel has a solid color
background.

nope. what's copied is the text.

If you were able to just view the data, that's one thing. But you
said you were able to "cut/paste" (and I think you mean "copy/paste"),
you are doing something I don't seem to be able to do.

it's obvious what he meant and just because you can't do it doesn't
mean nobody can't.

In article 2015071309565290184-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

This is a pointless and time consuming exercise in PS. If LR isn't
available then using Bridge to sort on exposure and lens criteria is
the better, and more efficient option. Anything else is just a PIA and
a total waste of time.

yep

...and without questioning the OP's motives in all of this, even the
Bridge option leaves me wondering why bother at all.

yep

My recommendation is to get the LR trial and if happy with that buy a copy.

from what he said, he's trying to determine the optimum lens settings,
which would be something done once rather than ongoing. if so, then he
could do it all within the trial period and not need to buy anything.

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

I think it's rather underhanded to use a trial version of Lightroom to
do this. If he's interested in purchasing or subscribing to LR, then
it's less underhanded.

that's not what you said a couple of years ago about using a trial. you
even said it was ok to reset the counter.

All I'm curious about at this point is how he says he's been able to
copy and paste the File Info using Windows7. I can't figure out how
to do this. I do understand the screen shot method, but that's too
complicated a process to be practical in my opinion.

drag-select the text. see screen shots in another post.

On 2015-07-13 13:38, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:03:48 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2015-07-13 12:18, Tony Cooper wrote:
I could make it work with a screen shot, but your suggestion seems to
be impractical. The idea (as I understand it) is to superimpose the
EXIF data on the image so the image can be viewed

Depends on how the data is presented. Starting with what I describe and
with your favourite editing techniques, one should be able to wash away
all of the datascreen background leaving black or white (or whatever)
text with a clear background. Slap a layer of that and you're done.

Doing this for a lot of photos would be tedious of course.

Yeah, it's possible to delete the grey background and leave the type,
but it is certainly not the easiest way to go about this.

Much easier to type a line on the image.

Perhaps - but error prone (and tedious)

On 2015-07-13 17:40:50 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 09:56:52 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-07-13 16:34:40 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 12:18:29 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:54:59 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:
On 2015-07-13 10:48, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:17:39 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:34:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:
On 2015-07-13 02:59:57 +0000, Peter Jason said:

Win7 ult, Win8 pro, Photoshop 6

When comparing a series of photos taken with varying f-stops, ISOs,
shutter speeds, RAW, etc I need to have ths EXIF data layered on to
the image so that I can compare the camera & lens optimums.
Where in Photoshop is the EXIF data presented so as to be copied &
pasted on to the images? Peter

In Photoshop you can get the file data from File-File Info.

Thanks, this allows the cut/paste of E.G. 1/200 sec; f/10; ISO 100
onto the image, and this will do for now.

I am using Widows 7 and CS 2015.

I am curious about how you were able to copy/paste the Camera Data
onto an image. I was unable to copy the panel by any means.

This is a screen shot of that panel open:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ij2ktrl00..._1040.jpg?dl=0

Even if it was copyable, pasting onto an image as a layer would make
the layer below it not visible since the panel has a solid color
background.

Screen shot the data to a file.

Add a layer to the image. Load that layer with the screen shot.

Lower the opaqueness of the layer containing the data.

I could make it work with a screen shot, but your suggestion seems to
be impractical. The idea (as I understand it) is to superimpose the
EXIF data on the image so the image can be viewed and compared to
other images using different settings.

If you put the image over the screenshot, and lower the opacity, you
can't really evaluate the image. You need to put text over the image.

The most simple solution to me is to type the text on the image.

The real reason for my post, though, is to find how the panel can be
copied and pasted within PS. I can't figure out how to do that and
I'm an experienced user of PS.

If all that's desired is to see the image and the EXIF data on the
screen, then that's dead simple using either PS or Bridge. Lightroom
is not needed, and if he has it there's no advantage over using PS or
Bridge.

I should add, because there's one person here who always wants to
argue about things, that a screen shot could be taken, the panel
cropped to the essential information, the panel screen shot pasted on
the image and reduced to a small space by free transforming, and then
the file flattened and printed.

But, that seems to be the long way around the barn compared to just
typing FL32, 1/160, f16, 200 on the image. That's all he wants.

This is a pointless and time consuming exercise in PS. If LR isn't
available then using Bridge to sort on exposure and lens criteria is
the better, and more efficient option. Anything else is just a PIA and
a total waste of time.
...and without questioning the OP's motives in all of this, even the
Bridge option leaves me wondering why bother at all.

My recommendation is to get the LR trial and if happy with that buy a copy.

The OP hasn't followed-up and told us exactly why and how he's going
about it.

I'm not going to question his motives. It's not my business. If he
feels that doing the project is to his benefit, then it's up to him.
What's been provided here is enough information for him to make
comparisons on-screen using what he says he has: Photoshop.

I think it's rather underhanded to use a trial version of Lightroom to
do this. If he's interested in purchasing or subscribing to LR, then
it's less underhanded.

A trial is a trial. Use it and if it does what you want it to do buy
it. If it is more than you need after you have tried it, don't buy it.

All I'm curious about at this point is how he says he's been able to
copy and paste the File Info using Windows7. I can't figure out how
to do this. I do understand the screen shot method, but that's too
complicated a process to be practical in my opinion.

I do wonder if there's anyone here - including you, and certainly me -
who doesn't do something that someone else would consider to be a
pointless and time consuming exercise.

To many folks out there much of what we do, and the way we do it would
appear pointless and time consuming. That includes obscessive PP with
your weapon of choice, and browsing Usenet. ;-)

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2015-07-13 14:03, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:54:32 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2015-07-13 13:38, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:03:48 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2015-07-13 12:18, Tony Cooper wrote:
I could make it work with a screen shot, but your suggestion seems to
be impractical. The idea (as I understand it) is to superimpose the
EXIF data on the image so the image can be viewed

Depends on how the data is presented. Starting with what I describe and
with your favourite editing techniques, one should be able to wash away
all of the datascreen background leaving black or white (or whatever)
text with a clear background. Slap a layer of that and you're done.

Doing this for a lot of photos would be tedious of course.

Yeah, it's possible to delete the grey background and leave the type,
but it is certainly not the easiest way to go about this.

Much easier to type a line on the image.

Perhaps - but error prone (and tedious)

How is it more tedious to type FL32 1/160 200 on the image than it is
make a screen shot, delete the grey background to isolate the type,
copy that, and paste it to the image?

Not saying "more", just tedious.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 13:38:14 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

I am using Widows 7 and CS 2015.

I am curious about how you were able to copy/paste the Camera Data
onto an image. I was unable to copy the panel by any means.

click on the text, drag-select, then copy. it's very easy.

http://i.imgur.com/EQXNVRY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M9nOTnx.jpg

they're active static text items, (as opposed to editable text item or
a completely inactive control), which are filled in when the panel is
invoked.

This is a screen shot of that panel open:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ij2ktrl00..._1040.jpg?dl=0

Even if it was copyable, pasting onto an image as a layer would make
the layer below it not visible since the panel has a solid color
background.

nope. what's copied is the text.

If you were able to just view the data, that's one thing. But you
said you were able to "cut/paste" (and I think you mean "copy/paste"),
you are doing something I don't seem to be able to do.

it's obvious what he meant and just because you can't do it doesn't
mean nobody can't.

" ... doesn't mean nobody can't."

Wow!
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:48:04 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:17:39 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:34:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-07-13 02:59:57 +0000, Peter Jason said:

Win7 ult, Win8 pro, Photoshop 6

When comparing a series of photos taken with varying f-stops, ISOs,
shutter speeds, RAW, etc I need to have ths EXIF data layered on to
the image so that I can compare the camera & lens optimums.
Where in Photoshop is the EXIF data presented so as to be copied &
pasted on to the images? Peter

In Photoshop you can get the file data from File-File Info.

Thanks, this allows the cut/paste of E.G. 1/200 sec; f/10; ISO 100
onto the image, and this will do for now.

I am using Widows 7 and CS 2015.

I am curious about how you were able to copy/paste the Camera Data
onto an image. I was unable to copy the panel by any means.

This is a screen shot of that panel open:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ij2ktrl00..._1040.jpg?dl=0

Even if it was copyable, pasting onto an image as a layer would make
the layer below it not visible since the panel has a solid color
background.

If you were able to just view the data, that's one thing. But you
said you were able to "cut/paste" (and I think you mean "copy/paste"),
you are doing something I don't seem to be able to do.

Here's an image, with the "file info" that can be copied (one line at
a time)...
http://tinypic.com/m/iwrqyt/1

Here it is pasted & the layers fused...
http://tinypic.com/m/iwrqyu/1


Adobe Photoshop Version:
13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00) x64

In article , Tony Cooper
wrote:

This is a bit strange.

When something is copied and pasted, what is pasted is exactly what is
copied.

not necessarily. that depends on what formats are copied to the
clipboard and the capabilities of the target.

for instance, pasting styled text into a plain text editor (one font,
one size, no formatting) will result in plain text because it does not
support styled text. while the *text* is the same, the formatting is
lost.

In these two images that Peter has supplied, the typeface is different
(sans serif and serif faces)

it's whatever font/style/etc. he chooses.

and there's no background behind the
letters.

why would there be a background behind the letters? he's copying text,
not pixels.

When type is added to a file by typing it in, the font can be changed.
However, a copy/paste of a line of type is not a TYPE layer.

of course it's a type layer. what else would it be?

i suppose you could rasterize it into pixels, but what for?

Here there are in one file:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2015-07-13.jpg

By "copy" could Peter mean he copied what it said in the panel by
typing in the letters? When "copy" in "copy/paste" is used, it means
putting the entire image or a selection on the clipboard and pasting
it.

If so, then he's not doing what I thought he was doing that I cannot
do.

he meant copy/paste.

what is apparently throwing you for a loop is that the text in the info
panel does not look like it's selectable, but it is. after copying it,
close the info panel, create a new text layer in the image and paste.

Adobe Photoshop Version:
13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00) x64

That's CS6, Version 13.0

yep.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:30:32 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 09:31:00 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 10:48:04 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:17:39 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:34:41 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-07-13 02:59:57 +0000, Peter Jason said:

Win7 ult, Win8 pro, Photoshop 6

When comparing a series of photos taken with varying f-stops, ISOs,
shutter speeds, RAW, etc I need to have ths EXIF data layered on to
the image so that I can compare the camera & lens optimums.
Where in Photoshop is the EXIF data presented so as to be copied &
pasted on to the images? Peter

In Photoshop you can get the file data from File-File Info.

Thanks, this allows the cut/paste of E.G. 1/200 sec; f/10; ISO 100
onto the image, and this will do for now.

I am using Widows 7 and CS 2015.

I am curious about how you were able to copy/paste the Camera Data
onto an image. I was unable to copy the panel by any means.

This is a screen shot of that panel open:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ij2ktrl00..._1040.jpg?dl=0

Even if it was copyable, pasting onto an image as a layer would make
the layer below it not visible since the panel has a solid color
background.

If you were able to just view the data, that's one thing. But you
said you were able to "cut/paste" (and I think you mean "copy/paste"),
you are doing something I don't seem to be able to do.

Here's an image, with the "file info" that can be copied (one line at
a time)...
http://tinypic.com/m/iwrqyt/1

Here it is pasted & the layers fused...
http://tinypic.com/m/iwrqyu/1


This is a bit strange.

When something is copied and pasted, what is pasted is exactly what is
copied.

In these two images that Peter has supplied, the typeface is different
(sans serif and serif faces) and there's no background behind the
letters.

When type is added to a file by typing it in, the font can be changed.
However, a copy/paste of a line of type is not a TYPE layer.

Here there are in one file:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2015-07-13.jpg

By "copy" could Peter mean he copied what it said in the panel by
typing in the letters? When "copy" in "copy/paste" is used, it means
putting the entire image or a selection on the clipboard and pasting
it.

If so, then he's not doing what I thought he was doing that I cannot
do.


Adobe Photoshop Version:
13.0 (13.0 20120315.r.428 2012/03/15:21:00:00) x64

That's CS6, Version 13.0



Basically it's the method I use for annotating photographs.

When I go to some family functionI get about 100 photos of varying
quality, and then I sit down to process them.

1/ Crop the best area to 6 x 4 ratio.
2/ Adjust the exposure.
3/ Adjust the vibrance.
4/ Adjust the sharpness
5/ Annotate: In notepad put in the static data (date, place, function)
then names and sundry comments.
Then copy and paste this into the PS text field and fuse the layers.
If the comments are extensive I can increase the "canvas size" and
paste the comments there at the bottom.

Incidently, Windows 8.1 shows RAW images in its Photo Viewer. Unlike
Windows 7.