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Question on film
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 01:01:08 -0600, John
wrote: I hate to say this, but if you really hate grainy images or grainy color photos then you really, really should consider a digital camera. LOL ! Some people are such cards !! I think I'll stick with my Linhof 5X7. == John S. Douglas March 30, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick, I'm sure there are people who feel towards the computer the way I feel about cameras and enlargers. So fine, why shouldn't they get digital cameras. But I hate the computer. My relationship with it is definitely love-hate, because I use it so much. Even if I'm looking at my own work (which means I have eliminated a dull chore, the contact sheet ...) onscreen, or a bit of anime for distraction, I always feel like I'm wasting time. My life is slipping by and I'm frittering here in front of this thing ... I don't feel like that in the darkroom, in fact I feel a sense of accomplishment if I get a couple of decent prints. Prints that come out of a machine have never really interested me; I know silver darkroom prints are close to machine made. But my hand is in there on each one, and that seems to be all my warped personality requires. My reasons for not bothering with digital methods as the means of producing my final result (a black and white print) are entirely to do with my psychology, personality, proclivities and idiosyncrasies. I'm not going to be changing any of these to accommodate a device or technology. regards, --le ________________________________ Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. voice: 416-686-0326 email: net: www.heylloyd.com ________________________________ -- |
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"Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote
But I hate the computer. ... I always feel like I'm wasting time. My life is slipping by and I'm frittering here in front of this thing ... On another newsgroup there is a poster who refers to himself as "Talker to Minerals". -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Consulting Engineer: Electronics, Photonics, Informatics. Remove blanks to reply: n o lindan at ix . netcom . com f-Stop enlarging timers: http://www.nolindan.com/da/fstop/ |
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On 29 Mar 2006 12:14:38 -0800, "Cheesehead"
wrote: You can pick up some Agfa APX-100. You'd better hurry; it's no longer made, and stocks are dwindling fast. |
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Question on film
I may be showing my ignorance, but I'm guessing that "STAND"
development means letting the film and chems sit still in the tank for x amount of minutes? I did that once because I got distracted and 3/4 of my 120 roll was more developed than the other 1/4. *aaaargh. Just to clarify, let's all take a refresher course (namely to benefit slow learners like me) and define the purpose of agitation. |
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"Dave the Guy" wrote
I may be showing my ignorance, but I'm guessing that "STAND" development means letting the film and chems sit still in the tank for x amount of minutes? Yes. From x minutes to x days. Stand development can lead to bromide streaking so some agitation is needed. I did that once because I got distracted and 3/4 of my 120 roll was more developed than the other 1/4. *aaaargh. I'll lay money that the tank was only 3/4 full of developer: this is a common error if this newsgroup is any guide. Not that I would do anything like that myself. Cough. Just to clarify, let's all take a refresher course (namely to benefit slow learners like me) and define the purpose of agitation. As the chemicals do their thing with the film they get used up. Agitation brings new chemical solution to the film. Without agitation the used chemicals stay next to the film doing nothing and not letting fresh chemicals at the film. Bromide inhibits development and is produced when developer changes light-exposed crystals of silver bromide into miniature brillo pads of silver. With no agitation the bromide falls through the solution inhibiting the development of the film below it. Low agitation developing with dilute developer is an attempt to bring up shadow detail in under exposed negatives without blocking the highlights: the build up of bromide and depletion of developer next to the highlight areas stops development while the absence of bromide and availability of fresh developer next to the shadow areas lets development continue. A variation is 'water bath development'. See Adams, Ansel "The Negative". Everybody has their own agitation style and the type of agitation required varies with the film and developer. See the manufacturer's data sheets. * * * Quivers down my backbone I got the shakes in my thigh bone I got the shivers in my knee bone Shakin' all over You make me shake and I like it |
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Wow, how nice was that? In any other photo forum the answer could have
seriously been: "Why are you still interested in film? I can get 500000mp of information via stitching with ZERO grain and no need to worry about agitation and development times! Get with the times and face it man, your precious film is no good for anything!" Or something of that sort. (thanks for the very informative reply). |
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Dave the Guy spake thus:
Wow, how nice was that? In any other photo forum the answer could have seriously been: "Why are you still interested in film? I can get 500000mp of information via stitching with ZERO grain and no need to worry about agitation and development times! Get with the times and face it man, your precious film is no good for anything!" Or something of that sort. (thanks for the very informative reply). Don't worry; that kind of thing is creeping in here more and more. "Man the barricades!" -- Save the Planet Kill Yourself - motto of the Church of Euthanasia (http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/) |
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John wrote:
I believe you mean the one on the front page at xs750.net. That's Henriks. Quite the custom job. Mines at http://www.xs750.net/mybike.html Superlative. I'll have to sit back a few rows. I've made it as far as a 500 Virago. Do have have it in mind to go as far as a newer 535. And all along I've thought 900 Harley's minimum. Then again for much of the time my maximum $ was less than their minimum $$$. Like to Bike. Dan |
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cgrady wrote:
I did eleven years running a custom B&W darkroom. Low grain was always a goal for me with success on many levels. I used several rolls of Kodak Panatomic. I was very pleased with its grainless nature, but it was a low contrast film. I had no problem with contrast with Panatomic-X film. Most of the people I knew who tried it complained it was too contrasty. Well, just develop longer. The main problem with that stuff (other than slow speed) was that it did shoulder off around Zone VIII to IX so you had to be careful with the highlights and not overexpose. I started using Ilford Pan F and was amazed by its grainless nature and higher contrast. With an ISO of 50 it is a good working film. It is available in 120 and I think you will be pleased with it too. Clint -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 08:55:01 up 19 days, 9:08, 3 users, load average: 4.11, 4.06, 4.06 |
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