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B&H and Adorama Closed!
"carrigman" wrote in message
... All to do with a Jewish holiday, I understand. Surely they have enough non-Jewish employees to cater for the rest of us? I didn't see any other major New York stores closed for religious reasons and I think it is outrageous for these two firms to treat its customers like this. John, Ireland Imagine yourself to be a Muslim, shopping in NYC for the first time, and you've decided to go to Macy's. Much to your dismay, they are so inconsiderate as to be closed, and on December 25th, too! -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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You misread my comments
You misread my comments.
"John A. Stovall" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:00:16 -0400, "Bill in Alexandria" BMcGovernWITHOUT wrote: I am sympathetic to John's disappointment. If New York City is, what, only 25% Jewish, you'd think a big company like B&H would have enough trustworthy and competent staff to serve its broader customer base. A business can do what it want's to as far as hours and days of operation. I'm sure B&H will fail without your trade. ************************************************** ******* "It looked like the sort of book described in library catalogues as "slightly foxed", although it would be more honest to admit that it looked as though it had been badgered, wolved and possibly beared as well." _Light Fantastic_ Terry Pratchett |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
John A. Stovall wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:20:15 +0100, "carrigman" wrote: I'm just back from a trip to New York City where high on my agenda was a visit to B&H to buy a Canon lens. Off I went one morning only to find the store closed for the week. No word of explanation. No matter, there was always Adorama. So I hightailed it down to West 18th Street only to find myself, together with a bunch of other bemused photographers, staring at shuttered windows and a notice saying they too were closed for the week! All to do with a Jewish holiday, I understand. Surely they have enough non-Jewish employees to cater for the rest of us? I didn't see any other major New York stores closed for religious reasons and I think it is outrageous for these two firms to treat its customers like this. And just how much were you going to spend? I'm very happy they close for religious reasons. It shows a quality lacking in the world of commerce today. I think the 6K I've spent with them this year will make up for your not doing business with them. When I was there a week or two ago, they handed out a slip to everyone as they exited, listing which days they'd be closed in October. True, that only helps frequent visitors, but they did make an effort. As I first looked at the slip, I wondered if they could keep the place open with non-Jewish help, but I agree wholeheartedly. B&H is showing that at least for one store, it's not about the money. (And if you've ever been to B&H, you know that it's not just about the money.) |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:09:13 -0400, Charles wrote:
The other major stores in New York are open because most Jews are not of that Orthodox persuasion like most of those employed at B&H and Adorama. And no, they don't have enough employees who are not of that Orthodox persuasion to keep the stores open. Actually in the Orthodox community there is a bit of disagreement about not working for the entire Sukkos period. All agree that they can't work at the beginning and end, but some feel it is okay to work in the middle. So in the middle days many take a middle position. They don't go into work, but they will do work at home. And then some do go into work on the middle days. Don www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
"carrigman" wrote in message
... I'm just back from a trip to New York City where high on my agenda was a visit to B&H to buy a Canon lens. Off I went one morning only to find the store closed for the week. No word of explanation. No matter, there was always Adorama. So I hightailed it down to West 18th Street only to find myself, together with a bunch of other bemused photographers, staring at shuttered windows and a notice saying they too were closed for the week! All to do with a Jewish holiday, I understand. Surely they have enough non-Jewish employees to cater for the rest of us? I didn't see any other major New York stores closed for religious reasons and I think it is outrageous for these two firms to treat its customers like this. I think many people could do with a remedial course in religious culture, respect, and tolerance. -- Rob "A disturbing new study finds that studies are disturbing" |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
Per carrigman:
I think it is outrageous for these two firms to treat its customers like this. When's the last time anybody found stores open on Christmas Day in a predominately Christian area? I've seen it, but my thought has always been that somebody should get a life and just close the place for that day. -- PeteCresswell |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:15:09 -0400, "Rita Ä Berkowitz" ritaberk2O04
@aol.com wrote: (PeteCresswell) wrote: When's the last time anybody found stores open on Christmas Day in a predominately Christian area? I've seen it, but my thought has always been that somebody should get a life and just close the place for that day. What's Christmas? It's just another busy shopping day for most. It's sad to say Christmas caved into the almighty dollar. Rita Here in Phoenix, Christmas is definitely NOT a busy shopping day; most stores are closed. Now, the day *AFTER* Christmas... -- Bill Funk Replace "g" with "a" funktionality.blogspot.com |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
All to do with a Jewish holiday, I understand. Surely they have enough non-Jewish employees to cater for the rest of us? It has nothing to do with the amount of non-Jewish employees. If the owner is Jewish, he is not supposed to conduct business (interpret this as make money) on some of the more important holidays (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, First and last days of Succoth, First days of Passover) and Sabbath (Saturday) regardless of if he has non-Jewish help. They are still making money for him. |
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B&H and Adorama Closed!
In article Charles writes:
$The other major stores in New York are open because most Jews are not $of that Orthodox persuasion like most of those employed at B&H and $Adorama. And no, they don't have enough employees who are not of that $Orthodox persuasion to keep the stores open. Actually, there's more (or less, depending on your point of view) to it than that. Different Jews have different views of what the rules are (just as in other religions; I once dated a girl who claimed to be Catholic but didn't feel that the Catholic prohibition of premarital sex applied to her). Those towards the more Orthodox end of the scale, of course, won't work on the Sabbath and on holidays. And if they're far enough towards that end of the scale, they're also forbidden to cause work to be done, even if they're not doing the work themselves. Some ultra- Orthodox Jews won't even turn on a light or an appliance on the Sabbath, for instance. And that extends to causing employees to do work for them. Even if you have plenty of non-Jewish (or Jewish but not Orthodox or observant) staff who could work without violating their personal religious views, your store still has to be closed. -- Stephen M. Dunn ---------------- http://www.stevedunn.ca/ ---------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Say hi to my cat -- http://www.stevedunn.ca/photos/toby/ |
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I like B&H, but......
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:00:16 -0400, "Bill in Alexandria"
BMcGovernWITHOUT wrote: I am sympathetic to John's disappointment. If New York City is, what, only 25% Jewish, you'd think a big company like B&H would have enough trustworthy and competent staff to serve its broader customer base. Are you kidding? They probably think that section of the staff would simply drive up in a group of U-Hauls and cart away the entire stock. Which has happened with some places, specifically, a car stereo store in Toronto. -Rich |
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