is it a forgone conclusion...

Justin Thyme wrote:

Another thing I frequently hear is people who have found that digital has
re-kindled their interest in photography, and then they find themselves
switching back to film for a more pure form of the hobby. Others had
digital rekindle their interest, (or even spark an interest they didn't know
they had) found their digicam limiting, and have invested in film SLR's, and
started shooting slides or B&W. ...

There are still people who drift in directly to film, like me. (-: My
father
tried for (35+) years to interest me in photography by trying to make it
easy
for me, but he finally succeeded when he produced a 4x5 Speed Graphic I
didn't
know he had from the depths of his closet. *That* I had to learn how to
use.
(It now seems easy to me; a wonderful camera -- but I've added a new 4x5
wooden
field camera for my more serious shooting.) I went on to set up a B&W
darkroom.
It doesn't really see enough use, with too many other things going on in
my life
this year, but I was printing last night and will be again as soon as I
get off
this computer, since I have the day off with no obligations until 3:00.

Rob Dean

that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....

On 2/24/2005 12:42 AM Joe Mama spake thus:

that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....

Maybe not (gone, that is). Like the famous statement attributed to Mark Twain:
"the news of my recent demise is premature".

Film can still do some stuff that digital can't (or can't do as well).
Probably will for the forseeable future.


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"I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon."

- Former President Gerald Ford to his golf partners, as related by
the late Hunter S. Thompson

Joe Mama wrote:
that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....



Why are people so keen to "predict" the death of film? What evidence do
you have to support this?

OK, so more and more digital bodies are being sold, but there is still a
lot of film bodies still out there. Why has Fuji just announced three
new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have
Ilford just been rescued with a management buy out?

What about the death of B&W when colour hit mainstream?

Film might become harder to get hold of, with consumer print film
becoming more difficult to get hold of, but I reckon slide & B&W film
will still be readily available for some time to come.

Steve

In article ,
"Joe Mama" wrote:

that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....

Hahahahaha-ha!

You need a good slap. The best way to insure the life of
film is to use it, lots of it....or at least buy it.

Now get out there and make some good pictures and no
more crying about the demise of film :-)

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Steven Kefford wrote:
new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have

There are few users of LF film, but they are the least likely to go
digital :-)

Therefore I predict a long and healty life for this NG, even though
there will likely be fewer roll film users present as time marches on.

Bob

bob wrote:
Steven Kefford wrote:

new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have


There are few users of LF film, but they are the least likely to go
digital :-)

Therefore I predict a long and healty life for this NG, even though
there will likely be fewer roll film users present as time marches on.

Bob

Absolutley. I am one of those who has gone from digital to LF. Well not
totally true, as I still do digital, and have not yet exposed a single
sheet of LF, as I have only had it a few days. Film is still well and
truly alive, and will be so for a considerable time to come.

Steve

Joe Mama wrote:
that this ng will be irrelevant in a year or so? i certainly hope not, but
film seems to be dieing a slow, painful death.

i'm 43, and it sucks to think that in a decade, or less, that film--as we
knew it--will be gone.

bummer, dude....



A friend of mine won't stop talking about how film is dead and how much
he loves his digital and how I need to buy one. But why? For now, at
least, all of my cameras shoot at a much higher resolution than any
digital cameras I'm likely to be able to afford right now. Plus a couple
of mine are hand-made or plastic contraptions that take their own unique
photos simply because they're so broken-down and stupid. Strangely
enough, I shoot better photos with these than my other cameras most of
the time.

Foregone conclusion is such a strong phrase. I think that the vacations
and family photos crowd is already jumping from colour film to digital
because it's so cheap in the long run, but that doesn't mean anything.
The accessibility and versatility of film will win in the more artistic
community.

- max

Max wrote:

Foregone conclusion is such a strong phrase. I think that the vacations
and family photos crowd is already jumping from colour film to digital
because it's so cheap in the long run, but that doesn't mean anything.

Actually it means quite a bit. When you take away all the film that
journalists used to shoot, and all the film that product photogs used to
shoot, and all the film that wedding photogs, portrait studios, and the
like used to shoot, and add to that all the film that the vacation and
family crowd used to shoot, well it doesn't take too much to realize
that at some point there will no longer be a large enough market to
justify manufacturing 35mm color film any more. Just like there's no LP
records, and soon there will probably be no VHS. There's some, true
enough, but not for most people's vision of reality.

Bob

bob wrote:
: Steven Kefford wrote:
: new films? Why are film scanners still being announced? Large format
: film is still available, although there are few users of that. Why have

: There are few users of LF film, but they are the least likely to go
: digital :-)

: Therefore I predict a long and healty life for this NG, even though
: there will likely be fewer roll film users present as time marches on.

According to the sales rep at Calumet the sales of LF film is increasing.
It looks like us hobbiests are picking up cameras and lenses on ebay and
are starting to pick up some of the slack!! :-)
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