SIDE BY SIDE - D70 vs Rebel XT/350D

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 14:29:55 GMT, "ian lincoln"
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"Clyde Torres" wrote in message
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"Alice" wrote in message ...
http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/Nik...sRebelXT.shtml

I'm not sure this review puts to bed anything. The Nikon/Canon zealots
will read what they want out of it and come up with different conclusions.

I for one have both a D70 and 20D. They are far superior cameras to the
original Digital Rebel, and from what I can see, the D70 is still superior
to the 350D DRXT. Oh,well, to each her own.


Reading the first page the feature set has the slight edge for nikon in
terms of shear number of advantages over the other.

Yes. Although one of the Nikon advantages is duplicated in their list
(the metering) and two arguably insignificant advantages for Nikon are
included (the 1.5 crop factor is touted as a "larger sensor" in
comparison to the crop factor of 1,6 with the 350D, and the startup
time of 0,02 seconds is given as faster then the 0,2 sec of EOS 350D,
when both times are faster than itnormally would take to raise the
camera to one's eyes) I didn't find a correspondingly irrelevant or
insignificant advantage listed on the Canon side. (Well, I suppose
that one could argue that the colour choice options for the 350D body
are irrelevant and insignficant as far as actual photography goes.)

Furthermore, one Nikon advantage is with "optional" software, which I
suppose means that you don't get unless you pay extra money not
accounted for in the price comparison. And the warranty advantage
would seem to be Canada-specific, too.

So, instead of 23-16 in favour of Nikon, it is more of 19-15 in Canada
and 18-15 outside of it. Still an edge in numbers, but not quite as
impressive anymore.

Jan Böhme
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In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Steven M. Scharf wrote:

If anyone is trying to de-feature based on price, it's Nikon. It's
inexcusable to not have mirror lock-up, it's just a firmware issue, and they

MLU is not just a firware issue. A real MLU always needs mechanics support
as otherwise holding it up continues to draw power.

omitted it to try to move people to a more expensive model. Similarly, the
lack of a vertical grip connection is another de-contenting move to try to
force consumers to move up to the D100. They remind me of how some car
manufacturers have certain options only available on the most expensive
sub-model (Honda is famous for this). Kudos to Canon for not leaving
important features off of its amateur product.

What colour is teh sky on your planet? D100 and D70 are not trivialy
comparable and there is a ton of way more useful features than you list
in the d100 to make one chosoe that over d70. There is no need for
extra shepherding.

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In message ,
Alan Browne wrote:

If you sort by quality (across all shooting conditions) you end up
sorting roughly by price at the same time.

.... for a given focal length, or range (as in a zoom). A $70 50mm lens
can be optically superior to an L-grade wide-angle zoom.
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John P Sheehy

In message . net,
"Steven M. Scharf" wrote:

Kudos to Canon for not leaving
important features off of its amateur product.

Like a RAW RGB histogram?
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John P Sheehy

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In message ,
Alan Browne wrote:

If you sort by quality (across all shooting conditions) you end up
sorting roughly by price at the same time.

... for a given focal length, or range (as in a zoom). A $70 50mm lens
can be optically superior to an L-grade wide-angle zoom.

There are always exceptions.

http://etischer.com/300d/Tamron28-75.html

It looks to me that the Tamron at f/4.0 at the ends and f/5.6 in the middle
is about as good as lenses get. (Although it's a pity his 70-200/4.0
misfocused.) It's not coincidental that my Tamron has produced the sharpest
images I've seen from the 300D.)

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

In article ,
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Furthermore, one Nikon advantage is with "optional" software, which I
suppose means that you don't get unless you pay extra money not
accounted for in the price comparison. And the warranty advantage
would seem to be Canada-specific, too.

I forgot about that. The Nikon RAW software is only a demo version with
the D70. That always chapped my ass about the camera.

The 350D ships with the new Canon DPP software, which, while not the
greatest, certainly is a lot better than File Viewer.
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John P Sheehy wrote:

Like a RAW RGB histogram?

AFAIK, the only low-end D-SLR with an RGB histogram is the Sigma SD10,
and it's there for a very good reason. It's not like any major player
is putting this feature into their amateur or prosumer models. But who
knows. We haven't seen the spec on the D80 or D200 yet, but they should
be out soon.

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In message ,
Alan Browne wrote:


If you sort by quality (across all shooting conditions) you end up
sorting roughly by price at the same time.


... for a given focal length, or range (as in a zoom). A $70 50mm lens
can be optically superior to an L-grade wide-angle zoom.


I believe most people would understand that...

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On 7 Mar 2005 16:58:51 -0800, "Scharf-DCA"
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John P Sheehy wrote:

Like a RAW RGB histogram?

AFAIK, the only low-end D-SLR with an RGB histogram is the Sigma SD10,
and it's there for a very good reason.

Because the SD10 doesn't do anything *BUT* RAW?
It's not like any major player
is putting this feature into their amateur or prosumer models. But who
knows. We haven't seen the spec on the D80 or D200 yet, but they should
be out soon.

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In message ,
"David J. Littleboy" wrote:

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... for a given focal length, or range (as in a zoom). A $70 50mm lens
can be optically superior to an L-grade wide-angle zoom.

There are always exceptions.

http://etischer.com/300d/Tamron28-75.html

Well, I was thinking about stuff like 16-35mm, etc.

It looks to me that the Tamron at f/4.0 at the ends and f/5.6 in the middle
is about as good as lenses get. (Although it's a pity his 70-200/4.0
misfocused.) It's not coincidental that my Tamron has produced the sharpest
images I've seen from the 300D.)

Nice. I might find that hard to believe, except for the fact that I
already own one Tamron lens, the 90mm f2.8 Di Macro, and it is the
sharpest lens I own.
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John P Sheehy