Insane new TSA rule for film inspection

Paul Repacholi wrote:

The USAF flew a bomber into the Empire State at least once, and the FAA
tried to fly airliners into the WTC on the aproach to Kenerdy.

I never heard about the latter incident, but here is a short summary
of the former incident, including another where a military airplane
hit a building on Wall $treet.

http://www.jimloy.com/history/empire.htm

On 17 Jun 2004 05:41:39 GMT, (Hzakas) wrote:


While you're bitter and cynical about results not obtained by writing the
President, let me share a "fer-instance."

Hmmm...this is the second assertion today that I'm "bitter,"
"cynical," whatever, yada yada..

I don't know where you guys are getting that, except maybe you're
missing the resident black humor in my sarcasm. I understand some
people don't get sarcastic humor. That's okay, but all I'm doing is
tossing this stuff out for discussion, based on two recent
experiences. And I haven't expected anything out of the White House
since November, 1963. (That's pretty much for real.)

There's an underlying message here. To the President, or your representation in
Congress, a sole letter may not have much impact when seen by itself, but what
if you start multiplying it by, say, 10,000? That kind of volume -- and I'm not
talking about form letters -- is hard to ignore, and will effectively serve to
give those in charge a wake-up call. It's definitely worth thinking about.

Agreed. The demographic representation of "one letter equals X amount
of people who feel the same way" plays rather large in the way some
policies are formed. Generally speaking, the letter must be
hand-written and postal mailed rather than e-mailed. Some reps are
adept at hitting the Delete button, but an envelope they have to open
means actual physical contact (once-removed) with the
writer/constituent. Paper not only tends to build up, it effectively
becomes public record.

If 10,000 photographers wrote letters to Congress I'll bet something
good would fall from the tree. I've got extra stamps if anybody needs
them.

One comment re your dad getting the job: As I'm sure others can
attest, sometimes going over the head of a superior backfires. A
person may get the job, but management can make you wish you hadn't.
Sounds like your dad wound up on the plus side of that deal.

Best,

JJ

(Personal: remove "unspam")

In article ,
Gordon Moat wrote:

Wow. I almost don't know what to type as a response. I try to follow
Reporters sans Frontiers, yet I seem to have missed this one. Really
shocking behaviour. Thank you for sharing this report.

You'll probably also be interested in:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2100403/

which links to:

http://blogs.salon.com/0002551/2003/12/28.html
http://www.globaljournalist.org/maga...ss-denied.html
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=10003
http://www.mattwelch.com/NatPostSave/Jvisas.htm

As you suggest, it's hard to know how to even respond to these reports.
Who is this visa requirement supposed to be protecting, and from what?

Richard.

Paul Repacholi wrote:
(Michael Scarpitti) writes:

(EDGY01) wrote in message ...

Has there EVER been a case where it was confirmed that explosives
were found hidden with film??

Was there EVER a case where terrorists fly planes into the World
Trade Center BEFORE 9-11?

The USAF flew a bomber into the Empire State at least once, and the FAA
tried to fly airliners into the WTC on the aproach to Kenerdy.


there is also a bunch of movies where terrorists / government conspirators /
aliens fly planes into highrise buildings on purpose.

--
Sander

+++ Out of cheese error +++

On 16 Jun 2004 18:20:18 -0700, (Jerry L.)
wrote:

Next trip, use your computer to find a camera store in
Chicago....there has to be a few in a city that size.
And, surprise, the camera store will probably have film for sale.

Lots of stores, but they're the usual suspects: Wolf, Ritz, et al. The
sales they may have at any given time may not necessarily coincide
with my film usage. I've never seen TMax p3200 on sale, or Tri-X, for
example.

Most of these chain stores will, at some point, sell 4-roll promo
packs of Fuji Superia 400/800 or Agfa Vista 400 print film in 24 or 27
exp rolls. Usually works out to about $1.50-$2/roll.

Chicago Camera, the city's oldest camera store, charges $83 for a
pro-pack of Fuji Press 800 in 36 exp. That's $4.15 per roll. They get
$5.30 per roll for TMax p3200 36 exp.

B-H gets $59.80 for the Fuji pro-pack,= $2.99/roll. P3200 is $5.69ea
(USA), $2.99 grey market. Today their website says they're out of
stock on both.

My prices from my source in New England: $38 for the Fuji pro-pack
($1.90ea), $3.50ea for USA TMax p3200.

So, shopping the sales in Chicago doesn't appear to be a viable
option. Way ditto for New Orleans, Memphis, and even San Francisco.
New York maybe. Big Boulder, PA and Helena, AR? No way.

Cheers,

JJ

wrote:

On 17 Jun 2004 05:41:39 GMT, (Hzakas) wrote:


While you're bitter and cynical about results not obtained by writing the
President, let me share a "fer-instance."


Hmmm...this is the second assertion today that I'm "bitter,"
"cynical," whatever, yada yada..

I don't know where you guys are getting that, except maybe you're
missing the resident black humor in my sarcasm. I understand some
people don't get sarcastic humor.

We do, most of the time. However, given the sincere, serious
replies to your serious situation, it was possibly the right time
to reply in kind ...

or use the usenet escape clause: ;-)

Cheers,
Alan

--
--e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.--

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On 16 Jun 2004 18:20:18 -0700, (Jerry L.)
wrote:

Next trip, use your computer to find a camera store in
Chicago....there has to be a few in a city that size.
And, surprise, the camera store will probably have film for sale.

Lots of stores, but they're the usual suspects: Wolf, Ritz, et al. The
sales they may have at any given time may not necessarily coincide
with my film usage. I've never seen TMax p3200 on sale, or Tri-X, for
example.

Most of these chain stores will, at some point, sell 4-roll promo
packs of Fuji Superia 400/800 or Agfa Vista 400 print film in 24 or 27
exp rolls. Usually works out to about $1.50-$2/roll.

Chicago Camera, the city's oldest camera store, charges $83 for a
pro-pack of Fuji Press 800 in 36 exp. That's $4.15 per roll. They get
$5.30 per roll for TMax p3200 36 exp.

B-H gets $59.80 for the Fuji pro-pack,= $2.99/roll. P3200 is $5.69ea
(USA), $2.99 grey market. Today their website says they're out of
stock on both.

My prices from my source in New England: $38 for the Fuji pro-pack
($1.90ea), $3.50ea for USA TMax p3200.


Yeah? How 'bout you turn me on to your source!
;-)

--
Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

"TP" wrote in message
...
"Matt Clara" wrote:

Surely you're as aggressive and hostile as anyone here.


Only towards idiots, of which there are plenty.

And as I mostly post here to correct the nonsense posted by these
idiots, I can see why you might consider me aggressive and hostile.



I'm not refuting that, just pointing out that there are others, yourself
included, who fit your characterization of "so many Americans here".

--
Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

TP wrote:
But I think you will find most people in the world have similar views
of Americans.

Especially the ones who suffer from a nationalistic variation of "Small
Penis Syndrome".

--
Always borrow money from a pessimist, he doesn't expect to be paid back.
~Author Unknown

Generally speaking, the letter must be
hand-written and postal mailed rather than e-mailed. Some reps are
adept at hitting the Delete button, but an envelope they have to open
means actual physical contact (once-removed) with the
writer/constituent. Paper not only tends to build up, it effectively
becomes public record.

That was my point -- a physical letter, NOT an email. Sorry if I wasn't
clearer.

One comment re your dad getting the job: As I'm sure others can
attest, sometimes going over the head of a superior backfires. A
person may get the job, but management can make you wish you hadn't.
Sounds like your dad wound up on the plus side of that deal.

My dad's immediate superior WASN'T the one responsible for that signature;
someone else in the hospital hierarchy was, and THAT individual was dragging
his feet.

Dieter Zakas