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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint withfonts?
On 2018-03-28 23:07, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint & with fonts? I have someone making signs for me on a vinyl style printer where she says she can't read in the Microsoft Powerpoint and fonts, even though I've embedded the entire truetype set (not just what's used in the document) in the PowerPoint file. I don't have a Mac nor Adobe Illustrator to test it out, but can't Illustrator just read in the PowerPoint file with the fonts? She says it can't do either, so she has to re-create the sign from a JPEG which seems pretty ridiculous to me but I don't know the technology at all since I have never done it. It's basically two question: 1. Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a PowerPoint file from Windows? 2. If yes, can't it get the font out of the embedded font in the PPT file? As usual, Microsoft have diddled you: https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c-3af1bab640de Near the bottom of that page is a section: "Text and Fonts". It says: "Also remember that Windows versions of PowerPoint can embed TrueType fonts within a presentation. But these embedded fonts cannot be seen by Mac versions of PowerPoint." Microsoft can't get it right w/i their own product line on 2 platforms. I doubt that Adobe can do much better in pulling the font. -- "2/3 of Donald Trump's wives were immigrants. Proof that we need immigrants to do jobs that most Americans wouldn't do." - unknown protester |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
Am Sun, 1 Apr 2018 14:09:09 -0400, schrieb Alan Browne:
As usual, Microsoft have diddled you: https://support.office.com/en-us/art...c-3af1bab640de Near the bottom of that page is a section: "Text and Fonts". It says: "Also remember that Windows versions of PowerPoint can embed TrueType fonts within a presentation. But these embedded fonts cannot be seen by Mac versions of PowerPoint." Microsoft can't get it right w/i their own product line on 2 platforms. I doubt that Adobe can do much better in pulling the font. Hi Alan Browne, Thank you for being purposefully helpful and for being an adult, by bringing up that very important compatibility issue which is really a Microsoft flaw, and not a Mac bug, although it affects the Mac and not Windows. Basically Microsoft doesn't let Mac Office read the fonts that were embedded by Windows Office. You'll note that I mentioned this long ago, but I don't remember if it was mentioned in this r.p.d thread or in the a.c.o.w-10 thread, where your admonition is very important. The fact is that the Mac MS Office doesn't respect the Windows MS Office embedded fonts, which is why we were hoping the Windows PDF with embedded fonts will have better luck on the Mac with Adobe Illustrator. So the question is really now whether the Mac can read embedded fonts in the PDF file. I don't have a Mac to answer that question, so I'm currently attempting to answer that question using the Windows Adobe Illustrator. Here is the progress we've made, to date, on the Windows newsgroup, which has been extremely helpful, and technically competent, as always, no matter what question is asked (nor how inconvenient the facts may be). Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the second CD keeps being asked for. There must be a trick - which I'm clearly ignorant of - to get the 2nd CD to be found - but I just posted that question moments ago, so we'll wait for the Windows users to figure it out, and then anyone can repeat the tests I'm running, because that's how we work on the Windows and Linux newsgroups. ==== ==== ==== 1. Download the 4 files from: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4...uite-free.html ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe Size: 375638402 bytes (358 MB) SHA256: 36DACE2549BDE94D7A45281380EEF453FD2AF38EDA19348FA3 DE567549A696EC SHA1: 1538166046E59DB6098F75C3196E84AD9310DEA1 ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB) SHA256: 5862668CA45C0196777D3D4E2108D0A6F0750F6965769CB573 0944D3520DBB54 Size: 427451410 bytes (407 MB) SHA1: D06911267603474B43F3F39E4B00029787173962 ----- Name: CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe Size: 346373903 bytes (330 MB) SHA256: C662F1C431FAA33160523545FDA3BD58F29ED3616CB8E6D183 5CCE810AD5AB30 SHA1: 54BA48723D657E4A86903ED2C876381488C8F945 ----- Name: CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe Size: 431237012 bytes (411 MB) SHA256: 921402DA55BFEF5E6E21DE2261F725FFE0A451153F453000FB 3152635E1161BE SHA1: 1C6CC05D49244ED1417B3E2C3136D4FD0B7F57E0 2. Unpack by right clicking & selecting 7Zip unpack to (choose the default): ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Design Guide.pdf .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How To Install.html .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\How to Uninstall.pdf .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc1\Read Me First.html ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe InDesign CS2\. .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\. ----- CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CreativeSuiteCS2Disc3\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. ----- CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1.exe unpacks with 7Zip to .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Adobe Solutions Network\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Documentation\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Goodies\. .\CS_2.0_WWE_Extras_1\Technical Information\. 3. Combine all files and directories into a single directory: .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe InDesign CS2\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Solutions Network\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Version Cue CS2\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Design Guide.pdf .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Documentation\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Goodies\. .\CreativeSuite\CS2\How To Install.html .\CreativeSuite\CS2\How to Uninstall.pdf .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Read Me First.html .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Technical Information\. 4. Run the installer (I ran on Windows 10 1709 Creator's Edition): .\CreativeSuite\CS2\Adobe Creative Suite 2.0\Setup.exe 5. You'll get a warning that "QuickTime 6 is required to use the multimedia features in the Adobe Creative Suite 2", which you can ignore. 6. Then it will require a Name (default = "Windows User") & serial number. Name: Windows user Company: blank Serial Number 1130 1414 7569 4457 6613 5551 7. It will default to C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe It says it will use up 2.62GB I put mine in C:\app\editor\pic\cs2 8. There will be a choice of what components to install: [x] Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [x] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [x] Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [x] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) 9. It will start installing and then ask: "Please insert CD 2 to continue installation" where if you hit the "OK" button, it will ask forever for that CD 2. Note: It seems to have installed Photoshop though, but nothing else. 10. So I hit cancel, and then ran the Setup.exe again. Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2" with the two options: (_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components So I switch that default to: (0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components 11. This time a form came up to "Change Individual Components", saying: Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify. Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Where the first item in the list is the default. 12. I changed the Adobe Illustrator CS2 to "Install" & hit Next and waited for it to display a "Finish" button, which I hit and the installation GUI went away. 13. So I ran the Setup.exe again. Up pops an option to "Change/Remove the Adobe Creative Suite 2" with the two options: (_) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (o) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components So I switch that default to: (0) Install, Re-install, or Uninstall Individual Adobe CS2 Components (_) Uninstall all Adobe Creative Suite 2 Components 14. Now the "Change Individual Components" form says: Please select the components of the Adobe Creative Suite 2 to modify. Adobe Illustrator CS2 (600MB) [No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install] Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Adobe Photoshop CS2 & Adobe ImageReady CS2 (450MB) [No Change - Installed] or [Uninstall] or [Re-Install] Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) [No Change - Not Installed] or [Install] Where the first item in the list is the default. 15. This time I selected both the remaining tools to install and hit Next. Drat. It asked for CD 2 and wouldn't take anything else for an answer. So I had to quit. 16. So I ran the Setup.exe again and only selected one product to install. Adobe InDesign CS2 (400MB) But it asked for CD 2 so I killed that. 17. So I ran the Setup.exe again and only selected one product to install. Adobe Version Cue CS2 (300MB) But it asked for CD 2 so I killed that. 18. Giving up on the entire suite, I then looked to see what was installed. C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\. Adobe Bridge\. Adobe Creative Suite 2\. Adobe Help Center\. Adobe Illustrator CS2\. Adobe Photoshop CS2\. Adobe Stock Photos \. 19. I guess the executables of interest a C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Adobe Illustrator CS2.lnk Right clicking on the shortcut to select properties shows: Target: "C:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support Files\Contents\Windows\Illustrator.exe Open In: "c:\app\editor\pic\cs2\Adobe Illustrator CS2\Support Files\Contents\Windows\" C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Photoshop CS2\Photoshop.exe C:\editor\app\pic\cs2\Adobe Bridge\Bridge.exe 20. Creating a shortcut to the Photoshop executable and running it pops up Photoshop version 9.0 and a voluntary registration form and then automatically checks for updates. Photoshop, which I've never used, appears to be working. 21. Running the Adobe Illustrator shortcut seems to run Adobe Illustrator version 12.0.0 and it doesn't ask for registration (probably because the first executable you run is what asks). Illustrator, which I've never used, appears to be working. |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:14:38 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Here's a tutorial I just wrote up, for example, for the Windows users to benefit from, where I simply asked them to help me figure out why the second CD keeps being asked for. you can't even manage to pirate software without having problems. |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". no difference. Bananas are readily available but they are not generally free. That is why it can be misleading to say they are freely available. bananas are not software you are pirating it. Not necessarily. yes necessarily. Even if he already has a license? he doesn't and you know it. |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 08:36:34 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred
wrote: Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens: "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". Hi Eric, I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or the adult side (rec.photo.digital). If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked. If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame). In short, a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic games. b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense confusion will be allayed. Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions. I will let you work out which side you think I belong to. In writing ' "freely available" does not mean that it's "free" ' I was writing about the source of the possible confusion of others, not illustrating my own. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 10:13:45 +1200, Your Name
wrote: On 2018-03-31 09:01:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 01:10:49 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Ragnusen Ultred wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote: from the freely available Windows version of Adobe Illustrator. illustrator is not free nor has it ever been free. "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". It may have been better if Ragnusen Ultred had written "readily available". you are pirating it. Not necessarily. If you're downloading the tweaked versions from Adobe without actually owning a licence, then yes, you are pirating it. The instructions on Aodbe's download page specifically say you have to already own a licence. That was more or less my point. While piracy was probable it is not necessarily piracy in every case. In saying "you are pirating it" nospam had jumped to a conclusion which was not necessarily correct. nope. i explained that. the reality is that 'ultred' doesn't have a license and is pirating it. |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
On Apr 1, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ): On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 08:36:34 -0700, Ragnusen Ultred wrote: Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 22:01:46 +1300, schrieb Eric Stevens: "freely available" does not mean that it's "free". Hi Eric, I don't know you so I need to know if you're coming from the Mac side or the adult side (rec.photo.digital). If you're coming from the Mac side, then it's understanable that you're in keeping with all the Apple children that they latch on to silly semantics instead of the tougher technical topic which is being asked. If you're coming from the adult side, I would simply ask you to answer the technical question, which has no bearing on what the legal position of the tools is (which, I might add, the adults on the Windows side already hashed out to a level of detail that puts the silly Mac users to instant shame). In short, a. If you're coming from the Mac side, then you have no helpful intent, nor do you have any technical capability to answer the question, so, it's understandable that you latch, instead, tenaciously on silly semantic games. b. If you're coming from the adult side, then I already pointed you to the adult side of that non-technical legal tangent, where your immense confusion will be allayed. Now back to the question at hand which has nothing to do with silly semantics that the Apple users /always/ latch onto because they can't or they refuse to answer even the /simplest/ of technical questions. I will let you work out which side you think I belong to. Consider that you responded to his r.p.d. OP. The poster of many nyms then added a cross post to comp.sys.mac.apps which has added to his confusion. In writing ' "freely available" does not mean that it's "free" ' I was writing about the source of the possible confusion of others, not illustrating my own. At some point historically Adobe had the expectation that folks accessing Ai CS2, or any of the CS2 suite, had bought a license, and might have lost the media. They were not announcing a free for all pirating operation. The other issue is Ai CS2 is not supported by any Intel Apple computer. So it will only run on a legacy PPC Mac, the last of which were sold in 2006 back in the days of the G5 and OSX 10.4 Tiger, and most of those have been retired. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Can Mac Adobe Illustrator read in a Microsoft PowerPoint with fonts?
In article .com,
Savageduck wrote: The other issue is Ai CS2 is not supported by any Intel Apple computer. So it will only run on a legacy PPC Mac, the last of which were sold in 2006 back in the days of the G5 and OSX 10.4 Tiger, and most of those have been retired. it also won't run on recent versions of windows either. adobe took the activation servers offline because there were no new customers. |
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