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Ektalure G Paper
What is this paper? I was recently given a batch of it. c. 1979. Thx.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If the paper is still good your going to make some really great warm tone prints, It responds to KRST like no other paper and it has a great surface texture. I still am hording about 1k sheets in my freezer (none for sale) for when I retire and have the time to enjoy it. If you find that the paper is not performing properly because of fog etc. get yourself some of Edwals Liquid Orthazite to clear things up. I have found that Forte's VC Warmtone Art has the same speed as Ektalure G with no filtration. It responds to KRST similarly, it's surface texture is nice but not as nice as Ektalure's. WT Art came be used for proofing and developing dodging stratagies rather than using up your Ektalure. IMO, Ektalure,Plus-X film, and D-76 was one of Kodak's all time very best combinations if your shooting medium format or 35mm up to 5X7. Good Luck. Bob McCarthy |
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Lloyd Erlick wrote:
[re Kodak Dataguides] I still have the copy I bought new for myself in the late 1960s. It has the paper samples and I still even have the loose sheet of tissue paper that rests against the gray card page. The other day I came across one in a Goodwill. It wasn't in such great shape, but it did have the paper samples. I wonder if I should have bought it? Sure! But fortunately they are common, so another will come along. Collecting Dataguides is a much more affordable habit than collecting, say, Leicas. I find the old literature and those sample prints interesting in the way they make change over time tangible - more so than the jewelry-collecting aspect of collecting objects (cameras, etc). Also, I still use the developing calculator wheel to figure out time/temperature whenever I develop film. These things are common enough that one assumes, or hopes, there will always be a good supply, but that can be a rash assumption. As I said of 620 spools and 9x12 holders in another thread, it is the common things that disappear most surprisingly. The paper sample books Richard seeks out are another example. Those things were freely given away, which paradoxically is one reason they are harder to find now, because they were easy to discard without reservations. The same goes for old datasheets and instruction manuals. It's the real world equivalent of bit-rot. |
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Ektalure G Paper
wrote in message oups.com... What is this paper? I was recently given a batch of it. c. 1979. Thx. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If the paper is still good your going to make some really great warm tone prints, Thanks for all the comments folks. The paper is mostly good. I tried a test sheet off the top of the deck and was a little disheartened. It was partially fogged. Then I pulled from the middle and back on the pack and they came out of the developer pure white. Yippee I guess. I'm sorry if someone has mentioned already but what grade is Ektalure paper? I'm guessing 2 or maybe 3? What does the "G" stand for? It responds to KRST like no other paper and it has a great surface texture. How so? What dilutions should I use? 1:9? 1:20? When do I tone after drying? I still am hording about 1k sheets in my freezer (none for sale) for when I retire and have the time to enjoy it. Life is too short. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. If you find that the paper is not performing properly because of fog etc. get yourself some of Edwals Liquid Orthazite to clear things up. Is that the same as Benzotriazole? I have found that Forte's VC Warmtone Art has the same speed as Ektalure G with no filtration. It responds to KRST similarly, it's surface texture is nice but not as nice as Ektalure's. WT Art came be used for proofing and developing dodging stratagies rather than using up your Ektalure. IMO, Ektalure,Plus-X film, and D-76 was one of Kodak's all time very best combinations if your shooting medium format or 35mm up to 5X7. Good Luck. Bob McCarthy |
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"Alan Smithee" wrote in message news:xYCzf.384030$ki.216383@pd7tw2no... wrote in message oups.com... What is this paper? I was recently given a batch of it. c. 1979. Thx. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If the paper is still good your going to make some really great warm tone prints, Thanks for all the comments folks. The paper is mostly good. I tried a test sheet off the top of the deck and was a little disheartened. It was partially fogged. Then I pulled from the middle and back on the pack and they came out of the developer pure white. Yippee I guess. I'm sorry if someone has mentioned already but what grade is Ektalure paper? I'm guessing 2 or maybe 3? What does the "G" stand for? It responds to KRST like no other paper and it has a great surface texture. How so? What dilutions should I use? 1:9? 1:20? When do I tone after drying? I still am hording about 1k sheets in my freezer (none for sale) for when I retire and have the time to enjoy it. Life is too short. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. If you find that the paper is not performing properly because of fog etc. get yourself some of Edwals Liquid Orthazite to clear things up. Is that the same as Benzotriazole? I have found that Forte's VC Warmtone Art has the same speed as Ektalure G with no filtration. It responds to KRST similarly, it's surface texture is nice but not as nice as Ektalure's. WT Art came be used for proofing and developing dodging stratagies rather than using up your Ektalure. IMO, Ektalure,Plus-X film, and D-76 was one of Kodak's all time very best combinations if your shooting medium format or 35mm up to 5X7. Good Luck. Bob McCarthy Ektalure is a very warm tone paper of moderate speed. It was essentially a replacement for an earlier Kodak paper called Opal, also a very warm tone paper, but very slow. The relative speeds awere given by Kodak as 800 for Ektalure and 160 for Opal. G is an arbitrary Kodak designation for the particular combination of surface, testure, and support color. It is described as "Cream-white, luster, fine grained. The fine grained refers to the surface not the emulsion. Ektalure originally came in Grades 1,2,3,4 but at the end of its production life was made only in Grade-2. It was available only in G surface, which, according to the old data sheets, was especially prepared to accept photo-oil colors. Recommended developer was Kodak Selectol or D-52. It should produce quite warm tones in any "warm tone" developer. It should also tone will in direct toners like KRST and Kodak Brown Toner but image color will depend on the developer used and other things. Fog can be reduced by adding either Benzotriazole or Potassium Bromide. Benzotriazole is more effective as a fog suppressant but tends to shift image color toward the cool side. Bromide shifts it toward brown so may be more suitable where very warm tones are desired. Quite a bit of bromide can be added to most paper developers. The effect of a lot of bromide will be a loss of some paper speed. Benzotriazole tends to lose less speed in relation to its fog supressing ability. Liquid Orthozite is just a Benzotriazole solution. -- --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
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Ektalure G Paper
When I worked in a university darkroom we made may prints on the "A" surface
papers, thinner than single weight it was used so that photographs could be bound into thesis (thesi ?) ((thesis's??)). Both Kodabromide and Polycontrast, our lab preferred the VC paper since some doctoral candidates are inconsistent photographers. (Others are excellent, I took several photography courses from grad students and professor types and learned a lot.) -- darkroommike wrote in message ups.com... Mike King wrote: Ektalure G was a double weight "portrait" paper. A warm toned emulsion, with a fine grained texture, on a cream colored base. Toned nicely in Selenium a "cool" brown. Came in only one contrast grade it was a staple of American studios before color film, many prints were hand colored using various oil pencils and paints. At one time Ektalure came in many bases and textures but it has gone the way of the dodo bird. The R, X and G surfaces were the last to go and I'd guess G lived on for about ten years after it's siblings, it was briefly resurrected after Kodak discontinued it the first time. About 1990-1993? Something familiar to all the veterans are the old copies of the Kodak B&W Darkroom Dataguide with the bound-in samples of paper types. I don't know if these still exist in newer versions - certainly the variety of papers doesn't. My 1969 edition, which was already old, but very useful, when an uncle gave it to me, lists Ektalure in E,G,K,R,Y, and X surfaces. The bound in samples include E, K, and X. Not to get too art-studenty, but I was also always fascinated by the little bound-in samples of exotic papers and the stylistic diversity of the images Kodak chose to use as samples, as a set of found objects. The 1969 Dataguide has a set ranging from a bridal picture (Opal paper) to posed portraits (Polylure, Ektalure) to a chemist in a lab of bubbling test tubes (Kodabromide A, naturally). |
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Ektalure G Paper
I have several of the little sample books that Kodak and Ilford used to
provide to dealers, the dealers always gave me the old ones when new copies were distributed. -- darkroommike wrote in message ups.com... Mike King wrote: Ektalure G was a double weight "portrait" paper. A warm toned emulsion, with a fine grained texture, on a cream colored base. Toned nicely in Selenium a "cool" brown. Came in only one contrast grade it was a staple of American studios before color film, many prints were hand colored using various oil pencils and paints. At one time Ektalure came in many bases and textures but it has gone the way of the dodo bird. The R, X and G surfaces were the last to go and I'd guess G lived on for about ten years after it's siblings, it was briefly resurrected after Kodak discontinued it the first time. About 1990-1993? Something familiar to all the veterans are the old copies of the Kodak B&W Darkroom Dataguide with the bound-in samples of paper types. I don't know if these still exist in newer versions - certainly the variety of papers doesn't. My 1969 edition, which was already old, but very useful, when an uncle gave it to me, lists Ektalure in E,G,K,R,Y, and X surfaces. The bound in samples include E, K, and X. Not to get too art-studenty, but I was also always fascinated by the little bound-in samples of exotic papers and the stylistic diversity of the images Kodak chose to use as samples, as a set of found objects. The 1969 Dataguide has a set ranging from a bridal picture (Opal paper) to posed portraits (Polylure, Ektalure) to a chemist in a lab of bubbling test tubes (Kodabromide A, naturally). |
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Ektalure G Paper
Local dealer? I must be new to the group, I've never heard that term
before. (Oh for the good old days, he lamented.) -- darkroommike "G- Blank" wrote in message ... In article , Mike wrote: Where can I get a Forte test sample book? Or even an Ilford? These were made specifically for Dealers to hang in their shops, perhaps you have a local dealer that wouldn't mind you having theirs. -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 greg_____photo(dot)com |
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Ektalure G Paper
"Lloyd Erlick" Lloyd at @the-wire. dot com wrote in message
... spending my time working under my enlarger. But it has been spring-like in Otnorot for a couple of weeks, and today is supposed to go to nine degrees (that's nine above freezing! Whoopee!). So who can resist a stroll in a bathing suit to the beach. You Canadians are a hardy lot. Maybe global warming isn't such a bad thing.Enjoy it while you can. Pretty nice here in NYC too. Natural Light Black and White Photography http://mysite.verizon.net/vze76ane/ -George- |
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