Depth of field - two of them?

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 17:52:22 -0000, David B. "David wrote:

On 18/01/2019 16:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:06:27 -0000, David B. "David
wrote:

On 18/01/2019 13:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:13:39 -0000, David B. "David
wrote:

On 16/01/2019 15:33, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:24:42 -0000, Whisky-dave

wrote:

On Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:27:10 UTC, Jeff wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6,
Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the
right eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the
chest of
the man in the background. Two cameras with superimposing? Or
some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg
is a
chromakeyed background

No the Borg are a cybernetic organism that assimilates other
lifeforms
and technologies into their own collective consciousness.

Resistance is futile. :-)

Well to some extent anyway.

I doubt they can manipulate the focussing of themselves.

Ha! :-) I hope you have found it worthwhile coming to this group!

Yes, there are knowledgeable people in here, which is unusual for
newsgroups :-)

There ARE good people here! :-)

Philo (my Facebook friend) tells me that 98% of answers given by
'nospam' are simply wrong. You must make up your own mind though.

Enjoy the group.

I recently gave up on Facebook. I contact friends and relatives by
email/phone/in person, privately, not publicly so everyone can see what
you're talking about. All I ever got on Facebook was notifications that
a friend of a friend of a friend I'd never heard of before had visited
MacDonalds and taken a photo of their happy meal.

I'm saddened to learn of your poor experience.

Do you require any help/advice/assistance?

No thanks, I just don't see the point in Facebook. Anyone I really care about I contact outside of Facebook anyway.

On 18/01/2019 18:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 17:52:22 -0000, David B. "David
wrote:

On 18/01/2019 16:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:06:27 -0000, David B. "David
wrote:

On 18/01/2019 13:11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:13:39 -0000, David B. "David
wrote:

On 16/01/2019 15:33, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 11:24:42 -0000, Whisky-dave

wrote:

On Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:27:10 UTC, Jeff* wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6,
Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the
right eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the
chest of
the man in the background.* Two cameras with superimposing?* Or
some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the
Borg
is a
chromakeyed background

No the Borg are a cybernetic organism that assimilates other
lifeforms
and technologies into their own collective consciousness.

Resistance is futile.* :-)

Well to some extent anyway.

I doubt they can manipulate the focussing of themselves.

Ha! :-)* I hope you have found it worthwhile coming to this group!

Yes, there are knowledgeable people in here, which is unusual for
newsgroups :-)

There ARE good people here! :-)

Philo (my Facebook friend) tells me that 98% of answers given by
'nospam' are simply wrong. You must make up your own mind though.

Enjoy the group.

I recently gave up on Facebook.* I contact friends and relatives by
email/phone/in person, privately, not publicly so everyone can see what
you're talking about.* All I ever got on Facebook was notifications that
a friend of a friend of a friend I'd never heard of before had visited
MacDonalds and taken a photo of their happy meal.

I'm saddened to learn of your poor experience.

Do you require any help/advice/assistance?

No thanks, I just don't see the point in Facebook.* Anyone I really care
about I contact outside of Facebook anyway.

OK! :-)

--
David B.

On 1/17/2019 10:04 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jan 17, 2019, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article ):

On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 22:57:42 -0000, Eric
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:01:40 +0000, newshound
wrote:

On 17/01/2019 08:57, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:27:28 +0000, Andy Blanchard
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 00:50:09 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

Cool! Especially this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheim.../File:Tilt-len
s_photo_of_model_train.jpg
I'm surprised this isn't used more often.

It's used more often that you might think, and you'll find examples of
both tilt (tipping the lens up or down) and swing (turning it left or
right) as with the train or ST:TNG still if you know what to look for.
Tilt is often used for purely creative effects or extreme depth of field
for long-distance shots, swing is mostly used for keeping two characters
(or whatever) in sharp focus like this is really the only usage I've
noticed for swing. Swing is a pretty good solution for scenarios where
the director wants a deep depth of field but lighting conditions mean
high ISOs and/or wide apertures.

The limiting factor is more the camera used and what mount options are
available as realistically, you need Canon EF or Nikon F mount, although
there are a few other options for TS-E/PC lenses. Now that DSLR lenses
are being used more for broadcast video the options for tilt/shift
lenses have gone up and I expect to see much more usage.
In the days of plate and cut-film cameras, most such cameras had the
ability to employ a number of such adjustments. Only the more
expensive 'technical' cameras offered the full range. See for example
https://s23527.pcdn.co/wp-content/up...hnical_large_f
ormat-1.jpg.optimal.jpg
or http://tinyurl.com/y72s28qo

I remember them, when we had a proper photographer at the research labs.

How much for a full plate sensor though!

I don't know about full plate, but how about this?
http://largesense.com/files/1514/9071/3222/Banner1e.jpg

7.5MP? Not particularly good, or am I missing something?

Yup, you are missing something. That is 75-micron pixel size, not 75MP.
However, the actual photo resolution is 12 MP @ 3888 x 3072, and it is B&W
only, and you will get images that only a large area sensor can produce.
...and it only costs $106,000 without a lens.

http://largesense.com/gallery/

http://largesense.com/products/8x10-large-format-digital-back-ls911/

https://youtu.be/CgpioaDb3Fs



Cheap at half the price. Here's one guy working on a DIY 4x5 equivalent.
http://maxotics.com/2016/05/30/graflex-4x5-digital-back-diy/

--
PeterN

On 2019-01-15 19:27, Jeff wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the right eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the chest of
the man in the background. Two cameras with superimposing? Or some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg is a
chromakeyed background since the lighting is quite different on them.

+1. Or not necessarily chromakeyed but simply separate video source
being merged into the principle scene.

This is really the silliest of silly threads... oh, wait, but close.

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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:51:14 -0000, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2019-01-15 19:27, Jeff wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the right eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the chest of
the man in the background. Two cameras with superimposing? Or some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg is a
chromakeyed background since the lighting is quite different on them.

+1. Or not necessarily chromakeyed but simply separate video source
being merged into the principle scene.

This is really the silliest of silly threads... oh, wait, but close.

If someone is sillier than me I want to meet him.

On 1/18/2019 7:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:51:14 -0000, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-15 19:27, Jeff wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the right
eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the chest of
the man in the background.* Two cameras with superimposing?* Or some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg is a
chromakeyed background since the lighting is quite different on them.

+1.* Or not necessarily chromakeyed but simply separate video source
being merged into the principle scene.

This is really the silliest of silly threads...* oh, wait, but close.

If someone is sillier than me I want to meet him.
Um ..... see Eric vs nospam;
pick one ;-)
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Later.................
Ron C
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:42:25 -0000, Ron C wrote:

On 1/18/2019 7:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:51:14 -0000, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-15 19:27, Jeff wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the right
eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the chest of
the man in the background. Two cameras with superimposing? Or some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg is a
chromakeyed background since the lighting is quite different on them.

+1. Or not necessarily chromakeyed but simply separate video source
being merged into the principle scene.

This is really the silliest of silly threads... oh, wait, but close.

If someone is sillier than me I want to meet him.
Um ..... see Eric vs nospam;
pick one ;-)

And where exactly do I "see" this "Eric vs nospam"?

On Jan 19, 2019, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article ):

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:42:25 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 1/18/2019 7:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:51:14 -0000, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-15 19:27, Jeff wrote:
"Commander wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the right
eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the chest of
the man in the background. Two cameras with superimposing? Or some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg is a
chromakeyed background since the lighting is quite different on them.

+1. Or not necessarily chromakeyed but simply separate video source
being merged into the principle scene.

This is really the silliest of silly threads... oh, wait, but close.

If someone is sillier than me I want to meet him.
Um ..... see Eric vs nospam;
pick one ;-)

And where exactly do I "see" this "Eric vs nospam"?

Just check any recent thread.

Perhaps the 402 message "Finally got to the point where no new camera holds
my interest (waiting for specific offering)� thread might be a good example
of Eric vs nospam vs Alan Browne.

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Regards,
Savageduck

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:


Perhaps the 402 message "Finally got to the point where no new camera holds
my interest (waiting for specific offering)² thread might be a good example
of Eric vs nospam vs Alan Browne.

more accurately described as eric vs {nospam, alan browne, harry
nyquist, claude shannon, every signal processing text book..}

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 15:38:20 -0000, wrote:

On Jan 19, 2019, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article ):

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 00:42:25 -0000, Ron wrote:

On 1/18/2019 7:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:51:14 -0000, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-15 19:27, Jeff wrote:
"Commander wrote in
news
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ctqungbvve...field.jpg?dl=0
This is a snapshot of Startrek The Next Generation, Season 6, Episode
26. It appears to have two planes of focus, one centred on the right
eye
of the man in the foreground, and one on the right side of the chest of
the man in the background. Two cameras with superimposing? Or some
effect put in afterwards?

Going by the still and not seeing the video I would assume the Borg is a
chromakeyed background since the lighting is quite different on them.

+1. Or not necessarily chromakeyed but simply separate video source
being merged into the principle scene.

This is really the silliest of silly threads... oh, wait, but close.

If someone is sillier than me I want to meet him.
Um ..... see Eric vs nospam;
pick one ;-)

And where exactly do I "see" this "Eric vs nospam"?

Just check any recent thread.

Perhaps the 402 message

Sorry? 402? That's an http "payment required" error code.

"Finally got to the point where no new camera holds
my interest (waiting for specific offering)� thread might be a good example
of Eric vs nospam vs Alan Browne.

Christ, 95% of that thread has been deleted by my killfiles, and I've only just entered the group.