Someone else post a film thread.

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 22:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Scott W wrote:
: I note that there has been virtually no threads dealing with film on
: this group, other then the few I started. If no one else is going
: start a film related thread then I really don’t want to hear about how
: this is a 35mm “film” group.

Richard Nixon always claimed that a vast "Silent Majority" of American voters
favored his policies (such as maintaining an "enemies list" and prolonging the
Vietnam war). When the Watergate scandal broke and the future of his
presidency was in doubt, Nixon's retainers couldn't understand why this Silent
Majority didn't finally break their silence and rally to his defense. The
answer was quite simple: the Silent Majority didn't exist except in their (and
Nixon's) imaginations.

I know two (2) photographers who I think still use film.

Bob

On 9/14/2008 8:24 AM Robert Coe spake thus:

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 22:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Scott W wrote:

: I note that there has been virtually no threads dealing with film on
: this group, other then the few I started. If no one else is going
: start a film related thread then I really don’t want to hear about how
: this is a 35mm “film” group.

Richard Nixon always claimed that a vast "Silent Majority" of
American voters favored his policies (such as maintaining an "enemies
list" and prolonging the Vietnam war). When the Watergate scandal
broke and the future of his presidency was in doubt, Nixon's
retainers couldn't understand why this Silent Majority didn't finally
break their silence and rally to his defense. The answer was quite
simple: the Silent Majority didn't exist except in their (and
Nixon's) imaginations.

I know two (2) photographers who I think still use film.

Note that this may say more about you than about how many photographers
still use film.


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:55:54 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote:
: On 9/14/2008 8:24 AM Robert Coe spake thus:
:
: On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 22:05:21 -0700 (PDT), Scott W wrote:
:
: : I note that there has been virtually no threads dealing with film on
: : this group, other then the few I started. If no one else is going
: : start a film related thread then I really don’t want to hear about how
: : this is a 35mm “film” group.
:
: Richard Nixon always claimed that a vast "Silent Majority" of
: American voters favored his policies (such as maintaining an "enemies
: list" and prolonging the Vietnam war). When the Watergate scandal
: broke and the future of his presidency was in doubt, Nixon's
: retainers couldn't understand why this Silent Majority didn't finally
: break their silence and rally to his defense. The answer was quite
: simple: the Silent Majority didn't exist except in their (and
: Nixon's) imaginations.
:
: I know two (2) photographers who I think still use film.
:
: Note that this may say more about you than about how many photographers
: still use film.

Really? What does it say about me? That I associate only with digital
photographers? That film photographers won't associate with me? That I have
any control at all over what equipment others use? (Well, I have bought my
wife a couple of digital cameras. But her old Nikkormat is still in the closet
if she ever wanted to use it.)

It's over, David. Time to move on. You know those guys who drive antique cars
in Fourth of July parades? You're their photographic equivalent. But even they
drive real cars the other 364 days of the year.

Bob

Robert Coe wrote,on my timestamp of 15/09/2008 11:09 AM:


It's over, David. Time to move on. You know those guys who drive antique cars
in Fourth of July parades? You're their photographic equivalent. But even they
drive real cars the other 364 days of the year.

Funny enough, with all the "it's over" and
other utter crap, there are thousands of film
photos being posted daily in flickr and other
sites where film users are not ridiculed by
morons who should concentrate more on real
photography and less on how it is taken.

Oh, and BTW: Kodak just released yet another
new 35mm film. Not bad for a "dead" medium,
isn't it? Then again: the only ones calling
it "dead" are those running around with their
hands over their ears yelling "la-la-la-la!"...

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:37:12 +1000, Noons wrote:
: Robert Coe wrote,on my timestamp of 15/09/2008 11:09 AM:
: It's over, David. Time to move on. You know those guys who drive antique
: cars in Fourth of July parades? You're their photographic equivalent.
: But even they drive real cars the other 364 days of the year.
:
: Funny enough, with all the "it's over" and
: other utter crap, there are thousands of film
: photos being posted daily in flickr and other
: sites where film users are not ridiculed by
: morons who should concentrate more on real
: photography and less on how it is taken.
:
: Oh, and BTW: Kodak just released yet another
: new 35mm film. Not bad for a "dead" medium,
: isn't it? Then again: the only ones calling
: it "dead" are those running around with their
: hands over their ears yelling "la-la-la-la!"...

You tell 'em, Noons. As for this moron, I'll stand by my previous statement.

Bob

I use film camera bodies I bought 20 or more years ago and many manual focus lenses which ceased manufacture not long after that. Strangely, with an occasional service, and with my 20 years of additional experience, the results are often superb and when they are not it is usually my fault.

For the car analagy, those who drive the best e.g Rolls Royce, Bentley, are not over-concerned as to the year of the model, which they drive everywhere, and the performance and reliability are legendary.

Originally Posted by Noons

Robert Coe wrote,on my timestamp of 15/09/2008 11:09 AM:


It's over, David. Time to move on. You know those guys who drive antique cars
in Fourth of July parades? You're their photographic equivalent. But even they
drive real cars the other 364 days of the year.

Funny enough, with all the "it's over" and
other utter crap, there are thousands of film
photos being posted daily in flickr and other
sites where film users are not ridiculed by
morons who should concentrate more on real
photography and less on how it is taken.

Oh, and BTW: Kodak just released yet another
new 35mm film. Not bad for a "dead" medium,
isn't it? Then again: the only ones calling
it "dead" are those running around with their
hands over their ears yelling "la-la-la-la!"...