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On 5/19/2017 7:19 PM, PAS wrote:
On 5/19/2017 1:29 PM, David B. wrote: On 5/19/2017 6:13 PM, PAS wrote: [....] My wife and I have been, thankfully, spared the loss of a child. But we have lost some dogs over the years. My wife was not always the dog lover I am. We got our first dog when our youngest of two sons was an infant so she had her priorities and it wasn't a new dog, that was mine. Fast forward about 26 years and we got a dog after going about five years without one. My wife named her Maya and she was an awesome dog. She was a bear-coat Shar Pei which you don't see often As a puppy: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-WNFH8Rd/A Full-grown: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-fp8xSGf/A Wow! :-) I've never seen such a dog! Thanks for sharing the photographs. Maya died two years ago at the age of 5 1/2. To say my wife was devastated is an understatement. She was attached to that dog in a way I had never seen. There are days where I still find her crying over Maya. I'm saddened to learn of your loss. I, too, have cried over the loss of my pets over the years. They do, as you know, become a part of you. They certainly do become part of us. We have two now, Bella and Bubba. Bubba is from the same litter as Maya was. Bella is six months younger from the same father but different mother. We haven't had Bubba since he was a pup, we only had Maya at the time. Bella came six months later. A family on Long Island not far from us bought Bubba. Three years ago they decided they had to give him up. The couple who bought him had a baby at the time and three years later had another one. Her mother was going to care for the two children while the mother went back to work but she was allergic to dogs so they gave him up. When you buy a dog from the breeder we got them from, you agree that if you decide to give up the dog for any reason then you must give the breeder first opportunity to take the dog. The breeder is in North Carolina, quite a distance from Long Island. The couple was being difficult and they were adamant that they would give the breeder one week to come and get the dog or else they would send him to a shelter. She was upset about this because she couldn't get to Long Island within a week - she has a family and a job and what-not to attend to. She asked us if we would take Bubba until a suitable place was found for him. We agreed immediately and after having him for a day, we decided we would keep him. He's a timid dog but a good boy. I wonder what causes him to be so timid because he avoids being pet most of the time, as if he is afraid. I wonder how he was treated by his other family. Lots of love ...... and time ...... will no doubt help him to relax. I wish you good luck with Bubba. -- David B. |
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On 5/19/2017 7:08 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-05-19 17:29:08 +0000, "David B." said: On 5/19/2017 6:13 PM, PAS wrote: [....] My wife and I have been, thankfully, spared the loss of a child. But we have lost some dogs over the years. My wife was not always the dog lover I am. We got our first dog when our youngest of two sons was an infant so she had her priorities and it wasn't a new dog, that was mine. Fast forward about 26 years and we got a dog after going about five years without one. My wife named her Maya and she was an awesome dog. She was a bear-coat Shar Pei which you don't see often As a puppy: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-WNFH8Rd/A Full-grown: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-fp8xSGf/A Wow! :-) I've never seen such a dog! Thanks for sharing the photographs. Yup! My "Step-daughter from Hell" had a Shar Pei, and I had a better relationship with the dog than with her. I just LOVE your sense of humour! This is another scan, shot with a K1000, some 25 years ago. You might say that my hair is somewhat fairer, and beard more obvious these days. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dcu4i7ru2sxe8u/LCO%2BHc.jpg Nice one! :-) -- David B. |
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On 5/19/2017 2:19 PM, PAS wrote:
On 5/19/2017 1:29 PM, David B. wrote: On 5/19/2017 6:13 PM, PAS wrote: [....] My wife and I have been, thankfully, spared the loss of a child. But we have lost some dogs over the years. My wife was not always the dog lover I am. We got our first dog when our youngest of two sons was an infant so she had her priorities and it wasn't a new dog, that was mine. Fast forward about 26 years and we got a dog after going about five years without one. My wife named her Maya and she was an awesome dog. She was a bear-coat Shar Pei which you don't see often As a puppy: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-WNFH8Rd/A Full-grown: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-fp8xSGf/A Wow! :-) I've never seen such a dog! Thanks for sharing the photographs. Maya died two years ago at the age of 5 1/2. To say my wife was devastated is an understatement. She was attached to that dog in a way I had never seen. There are days where I still find her crying over Maya. I'm saddened to learn of your loss. I, too, have cried over the loss of my pets over the years. They do, as you know, become a part of you. They certainly do become part of us. We have two now, Bella and Bubba. Bubba is from the same litter as Maya was. Bella is six months younger from the same father but different mother. We haven't had Bubba since he was a pup, we only had Maya at the time. Bella came six months later. A family on Long Island not far from us bought Bubba. Three years ago they decided they had to give him up. The couple who bought him had a baby at the time and three years later had another one. Her mother was going to care for the two children while the mother went back to work but she was allergic to dogs so they gave him up. When you buy a dog from the breeder we got them from, you agree that if you decide to give up the dog for any reason then you must give the breeder first opportunity to take the dog. The breeder is in North Carolina, quite a distance from Long Island. The couple was being difficult and they were adamant that they would give the breeder one week to come and get the dog or else they would send him to a shelter. She was upset about this because she couldn't get to Long Island within a week - she has a family and a job and what-not to attend to. She asked us if we would take Bubba until a suitable place was found for him. We agreed immediately and after having him for a day, we decided we would keep him. He's a timid dog but a good boy. I wonder what causes him to be so timid because he avoids being pet most of the time, as if he is afraid. I wonder how he was treated by his other family. My guess is that he was never properly socialized, or that he is upset over his change of pack leader. You cannot force him to do anything. Talk softly to him at all times. Hopefully he won't become aggressive out of fear. Try frequent hand feeding with treats. I assume he will let you brush him. If so, give him treats while brushing, and every so often substitute your hand for a brush. -- PeterN |
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On 5/19/2017 11:57 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 5/19/2017 2:19 PM, PAS wrote: On 5/19/2017 1:29 PM, David B. wrote: On 5/19/2017 6:13 PM, PAS wrote: [....] My wife and I have been, thankfully, spared the loss of a child. But we have lost some dogs over the years. My wife was not always the dog lover I am. We got our first dog when our youngest of two sons was an infant so she had her priorities and it wasn't a new dog, that was mine. Fast forward about 26 years and we got a dog after going about five years without one. My wife named her Maya and she was an awesome dog. She was a bear-coat Shar Pei which you don't see often As a puppy: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-WNFH8Rd/A Full-grown: http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Maya/i-fp8xSGf/A Wow! :-) I've never seen such a dog! Thanks for sharing the photographs. Maya died two years ago at the age of 5 1/2. To say my wife was devastated is an understatement. She was attached to that dog in a way I had never seen. There are days where I still find her crying over Maya. I'm saddened to learn of your loss. I, too, have cried over the loss of my pets over the years. They do, as you know, become a part of you. They certainly do become part of us. We have two now, Bella and Bubba. Bubba is from the same litter as Maya was. Bella is six months younger from the same father but different mother. We haven't had Bubba since he was a pup, we only had Maya at the time. Bella came six months later. A family on Long Island not far from us bought Bubba. Three years ago they decided they had to give him up. The couple who bought him had a baby at the time and three years later had another one. Her mother was going to care for the two children while the mother went back to work but she was allergic to dogs so they gave him up. When you buy a dog from the breeder we got them from, you agree that if you decide to give up the dog for any reason then you must give the breeder first opportunity to take the dog. The breeder is in North Carolina, quite a distance from Long Island. The couple was being difficult and they were adamant that they would give the breeder one week to come and get the dog or else they would send him to a shelter. She was upset about this because she couldn't get to Long Island within a week - she has a family and a job and what-not to attend to. She asked us if we would take Bubba until a suitable place was found for him. We agreed immediately and after having him for a day, we decided we would keep him. He's a timid dog but a good boy. I wonder what causes him to be so timid because he avoids being pet most of the time, as if he is afraid. I wonder how he was treated by his other family. My guess is that he was never properly socialized, or that he is upset over his change of pack leader. You cannot force him to do anything. Talk softly to him at all times. Hopefully he won't become aggressive out of fear. Try frequent hand feeding with treats. I assume he will let you brush him. If so, give him treats while brushing, and every so often substitute your hand for a brush. That's good advice, Peter. :-) -- David B. |
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Fri, 19 May 2017 00:58:24 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote:
On 5/18/2017 8:06 PM, Diesel wrote: PeterN news Thu, 18 May 2017 16:51:26 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote: You can have sweet dogs and nasty ones of any breed. A lot depends on their training and socialization. Having said that, some breeds such as Akitas, can be very protective. My younger daughter was walking her neighbor's Akita, and went for a coffee in an outside cafe. Some guy started to bother her. the Akita sensed a problem, stood up and just stared at a point in the sidewalk. The dog made it clear that his eyes were focused on a line, and that he would protect if anyone crossed the line. Even the drunk realized it. a few minutes later someone called the cops, and they quickly took the drunk away. when the cop came over to my daughter to ask if she was OK, the Akita just sat down and went into friendly mode. You seem very knowledgeable concerning Dogs and their mindsets. I appreciate you having taken the time to post this. both of my kids and quite a few of my friends are serious dog owners. My older daughter spends every weekend taking her golden to various dog events, such as hunting, agility, tracking and retrieving competitions. the dog is a master senior hunter and as I posted earlier, qualified at Westminster for the finals in agility. The dog goes to a doggie chiropractor, and gets regular warm water massages. My other daughter, for some reason, has a natural attraction for animals. On more than one occasion, while swimming, wild dolphins would swim in and pay with her. In order to keep up with them, I have had to learn something about animals, Just as they had to learn something about art and music, in order to keep up with me and my wife. I understand, completely. I've had dogs and cats (I'm more of a cat person myself, but, others in the family are dog people) my entire life. We've been known to take in strays and rescue abused critters since I was a kid. My mom presently has five pitbulls of various sub breeds that are rescue animals. Loving creatures, with a bad reputation based on ignorance. -- I would like to apologize for not having offended you yet. Please be patient. I will get to you shortly. |
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Fri, 19 May 2017 10:08:54 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote: [snip] I don't download vunerable viewers. How would you know if it was when you downloaded it? The vulnerability reports tend to come after the fact. I stick to the ones most used, presently I have 3 browsers running. firefox, chrome and safari, ech have their own uses or rather I put them to specific uses. Those are browsers...Your knowledge of IT leaves a bit to be desired... As far as the three browsers you just listed, all three of them have had vulnerabilites and patches issued as a result of the ones identified. That does *not* mean they've all been identified, yet, either. Likely pointless to explain why one in particular isn't so good from a privacy POV. someone calling themselves emailed mt this morining with a zip attachment called 5566046.zip do you think I should open that zip if so why ? The .zip file itself, short of using a vulnerable archiving tool (and don't bother claiming that doesn't exist, I cited winzip only because of it's popularity and it's had several issues) poses no threat whatsoever to you. It's ONLY a file container with compression. It's the contents within that matters. I tried to explain that to you previously, but, you wouldn't listen. So, in my professional opinion, I think you should let an adult from your I.T dept help you out. You don't seem capable of making sound decisions on your own. You think the Mac is immune? far more imune than PC's no mac as far as I know has been infected by the lastest worm that afect the NHS and another 200,000 odd users. The latest worm is a win32 PE executable. Your mac, without additional work on your end cannot execute the program. It wasn't written for your mac. So, your example, is a bad one. That does *not* mean malware written specifically to take advantage of mac users doesn't exist. infact, it does. But, Mac doesn't have the userbase that Windows systems do. Rather, it's a niche market for malware authors interest. Hospitals don't routinely use Macs. They're overpriced and incapable of competing against a PC with the same level of money dumped into it. They do good (ie: struggle) to compete with an inexpensive PC these days. If one should put the cash a typical mac costs into a PC clone, the mac doesn't stand a chance. Macs used to specialize in graphics design, and photography work; but, the newer video cards and software available for the PC made the mac unable to realistically compete there either. At best, it's become a level playing field now. Macs used to have the schools in the US on essential lockdown, but, that's changed too. Now adays, kids are sent home with Windows based laptops on lease from the school, typically budget Dells (in this area) In fact, Pixar (Now Disneys company) uses PC clones to do the animated 'movies' you see these days. Not macs. That's what you get for choosing to remain closed and proprietary. Left behind. The poster of the link isn't the one who creates the scripts dropbox uses, so what does trusting the poster have to do with my question? everything. Just like lending someone yuor car, computer or anything else. I fail to see the comparison. So again, I'll ask, since the user you trust has no control over any of the scripts dropbox uses, what difference does it make if you know the person or not? ROFL! It indicates NOTHING of the sort. Yes it does it's why banks use it. Your assumption isn't that accurate. Banks exchange sensitive information with you. The site interacts with you. It's in your best interest to have the comms encrypted and be sure you're actually on the banks own domain. HTTPS tries to cover that for you. I write tries because, well, various certs have been forged before rendering the domain assurance null and void. My site does NOT interact with you, offers a program that was always free and has been discontinued for years now. there's no incentive or reason otherwise to deal with paying for a cert and encrypting the data. So again, you might want to review the HTTPS link I provided you previously from slashdot if you actually want the technical specifics on it. I suspect, though, you could care less. As, it's likely beyond your limited understanding. After all, you think a .zip file by itself, is dangerous. http://www.helpwithpcs.com/jargon/http.htm What is HTTPS? HTTPS is a secure adaptation of HTTP which you will find in common use on secure areas when visiting websites. exactly. As I told you, My domain has no secure areas for you to visit. There's no valid reason for me to use HTTPS. Do you need to research what a 'secure area' is? As I told you, previously, there are no secure areas on the bughunter site. It doesn't host a forum, it offers you, the visitor, NO INTERACTION. No scripts, no pictures (Unless you want to click the link pointing to the jpeg of my deceased red long hair persian) and I have even less intrest in your sex life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_%28cat%29 So you have the maturity level of a small child then? It's a plain jane html site I thought yuo disabled HTML emails. You seem to be confused on basic terminology as well. If I'm using words that are confusing to you, just specify which ones and I'll try to dumb this down further for you. I feel sorry for your I.T department. There's nothing it's going to 'run' inside your browser. says who ? Well, since I wrote the sites html in notepad, and, it's my site, I'm saying so. You do realize you could literally download the sites index file and load it in your favorite text editor/viewer, without rendering a single line in your browser, right? Well, in your case, you probably don't know that. But, I digress. You can (well, probably not you), but someone with actual technical knowledge could. I don't need that knowlege and I very much doubt you could teach it anyway. LOL! The individual I tried to warn you about would disagree with you. I'm infamous as a former blackhat. I've got quite the reputation that he enjoys reminding me of at times. Some of my 'work' was written about in Rolling Stone magazine. So, doubt all you like. As presently, you're spreading FUD. You're probably okay with that, but, it is annoying for those of us who know better. You know better by telling peole to download zip files because no harmn can come of it. ? A .zip file by itself is harmless. You actually run a better risk of something nasty coming from a pdf... it will never go away while the ignorant download things without any thought. What part of, downloading something doesn't automatically result in an 'infection' is too complicated for you to understand? which is why I donlt trust starngers offering zips. I understand. You're a bit of a technological idiot, and, you think a .zip file by itself if you download it can infect you. Ignorance is a curable condition, but, what you suffer from, there's just no cure. You can't fix stupid. But you can't post a text file or a PDF of such things only a zip. A PDF actually presents more of a danger to you. I could slip you a mickey with a pdf file much easier than I could a zip file. The PDF can contain code that you wouldn't know was there, until your PDF viewer of choice executed it for you (pending your pdf viewer is exploitable, and, it most likely is) And, by then, it's too late. http://www.esecurityplanet.com/secur...em-3932511.htm In early 2010, PDF exploits were by far the most common malware tactic, representing more than 47 percent of all Q1 infections tracked by Kaspersky Labs. By mid-year, PDF exploits had fallen to 30 percent, overtaken by Java. However, PDF remains the world's second most popular target. 1. Low-hanging fruit: One of the biggest reasons that PDF exploits blossomed in 2009 was Adobe Reader's ubiquity. According to Kaspersky researcher Roul Schouwenberg, hardening techniques like Data Execution Prevention (DEP) and Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR) had been rolled into Windows, making OS exploits less attractive. Malware writers searching for more fertile fields seized upon PDF as a wildly popular monoculture ripe for attack. Just about every desktop has a PDF reader installed -- usually Adobe Reader or Acrobat. This enormous pool of potential victims translates into a financially lucrative attack target worthy of investment in malware development. 2. Push-button exploits: In reality, as malware kits that exploited PDF vulnerabilities became readily available, little effort or expense was actually needed to tap this opportunity. According to M86 Security Labs, malware kits such as LuckySploit, CrimePack, and Fragus can be purchased for as little as $100 -- and commonly top out around $1,000. This trend started with MPack but really ramped up in 2008; today, most new malware kits include Adobe Flash, Java classes and PDF-based exploits. Those kits made it trivial to create obfuscated automated attacks that leveraged Adobe Reader's many well-known code vulnerabilities. 3. Large attack surface: PDF is an industry standard portable document format, implemented by many free and commercial programs. But Adobe's Reader and Acrobat products are driven by an extremely large and complex code base which includes numerous proprietary extensions. This translates into functionality and flexibility -- characteristics that have made PDF a "universal language" for document exchange. But it also means an extremely large attack surface that has proven difficult for Adobe and anti-malware vendors to defend. One example: Adobe Reader supports embedded Javascript objects -- yet another foothold that malware writers can use to gain traction. 4. Slow moving mitigation: According to a Microsoft Security Intelligence Report, three Adobe Reader vulnerabilities -- patched in May 2008, November 2008 and March 2009 -- accounted for more than 46 percent of all browser-based attacks. Vulnerabilities such as these were so widely exploited because, until mid-2010, Adobe did not have an auto-update infrastructure. Soon after an updater was released, PDF exploits began to decline. However, they did not disappear because 1) users must opt into auto-updates, and 2) updates are only checked for the installed version. Thus, users still running Adobe Reader 7.0 or 8.0 may think they are current, having enabled auto-update and installed all available patches. But they should really be moving to Reader X to avoid exploits that succeed only against older versions. 5. The race is still on: During the past year, Adobe has taken significant steps to reduce PDF exploitation. In addition to auto-updates, Adobe developed an Adobe Reader Protected Mode – a secure sandbox in which PDFs can be opened for display, handcuffing malware calls to other applications and using policy to determine actions that are automatically allowed or blocked. Unfortunately, users can defeat these protections by clicking "yes." Although users may now realize that PDFs are used for phishing, many still don't think of PDFs as harboring malware. And attackers continue to find new holes to exploit and new ways to evade detection. for example, return-oriented programming (ROP) and stolen digital certificates have played roles in recent PDF exploits. You can click the link if you want to know more about pdf 0wnage. Atleast with the .zip file, It can't do anything to you until you unzip and 'run' whatever files are present inside. I'd have to coax you into running one or more files inside the zip, but, with a pdf, I'd just need you to 'view' it to give you a gift. And, you seem stupid enough to do that, based on what you've written. Ypou can post a link that actual gives information rather than just a download link, a sign of a scammer if you knew anything about security or malware yuo should know that these sort of things are what you don't access in anyway. You think I know nothing about security and/or malware do you? The urls below are by no means the full extent of the malicious code I'm responsible for having authored, but, it *should* put your assumption that I know nothing about security and/or malware to rest. If not, well, there's just no helping your ignorance on the matter. I can fix many things of a technical and electrical nature, but I can't fix stupid. https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/irok.shtml https://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/toadie.shtml I specifically included HTTPS links for you, as for some reason, you think HTTP links are 'unsafe' It's also worth noting that the irok family was my last series of viruses, authored nearly two decades ago. I've since put the knowledge I have to good use in helping keep systems I'm responsible for secure from such things. BugHunter (the program hosted on the domain with the same name) was my attempt to try and make things right for the damage I caused to people I didn't know. Along with working for Malwarebytes as an expert malware reseacher. I *was* a blackhat hacker, but, these days, I'm a grayhat. I still have a few vices, but none of it's related to authoring malicious code of ANY kind. Due to my past, I'm always under peer review, as I told you. It wouldn't benefit me in the least little bit to do anything nefarious to your system or anyone elses. Which is why as I explained, numerous times already, the .zip file I offered poses absolutely NO threat of any kind to you. Another individual you likely don't know or trust already confirmed what's inside of it. My forst computer had 16k of RAM. That's nice, but, I get the impression you didn't graduate beyond that of an end user, based on our discussion so far. On my first webpage I wanted and animated gif and most had 14.4k modems so I made a gif of 3 flying bats that was less than 1Kb it's possible some users were 14.4k, but, depending on when they started surfing the web, they could have been using 28.8k, 33.6k, or 56k My first online experience was on a 2400baud modem, on the internet, but, not on the www as it didn't exist yet. I was also a serious BBS user as well as SysOp...Enough strolling down memory lane though. As I said, you don't strike me as a tech savvy individual. Mac is probably well suited for your IT abilities. It holds hands, quite nicely. Nowerday a lot of google adds are more than 1/2 meg, I watch HD trailers on-line, I play a an online game with guite good graphics all from the browser. I've vie lots of 10MB files of the mariation surface on-line. Are you not a good typist either? Or, is something else up here? Telling people to download zips is stupid, it;s one of the simpleest things you can do to protect yourself is NOT to download zips. Zips are just files that cannot do any harm to you by themselves. It's the contents when unzipped that determines harm value. The .zip file itself plays no role in that. To think otherwise, is, well, just ignorant. Many programs can be found online in .zips. BugHunter comes as a ..zip file, for example. As do MANY others. It's an industry standard archive format. That was the first thought, as T.Rex were the first band I liked as a child , the first record I brought was by them but can't remmeber which record. I'm starting to think that your thought processes are in need of work, as you confused a cat reference as having something to do with my sex life... It's far more likely than me downloading a zip from someone I don't know. Downloading a .zip file poses no threat to you or anyone else. Blindly running scripts you know nothing about, Opening pdf files can be a security risk to you, mac or not. And, I bet you don't even think twice about doing it. http://www.esecurityplanet.com/secur...em-3932511.htm So if that's what you're hoping for, I'd watch the sky for that ICMP you're expecting. I'm hoping for nothing actually. You seem to be one of those incurably stupid individuals on the internet. I would say I pity you, but, I'm fresh out. -- I would like to apologize for not having offended you yet. Please be patient. 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On 5/20/2017 10:00 AM, Diesel wrote:
PeterN news Fri, 19 May 2017 00:58:24 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote: On 5/18/2017 8:06 PM, Diesel wrote: PeterN news Thu, 18 May 2017 16:51:26 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote: You can have sweet dogs and nasty ones of any breed. A lot depends on their training and socialization. Having said that, some breeds such as Akitas, can be very protective. My younger daughter was walking her neighbor's Akita, and went for a coffee in an outside cafe. Some guy started to bother her. the Akita sensed a problem, stood up and just stared at a point in the sidewalk. The dog made it clear that his eyes were focused on a line, and that he would protect if anyone crossed the line. Even the drunk realized it. a few minutes later someone called the cops, and they quickly took the drunk away. when the cop came over to my daughter to ask if she was OK, the Akita just sat down and went into friendly mode. You seem very knowledgeable concerning Dogs and their mindsets. I appreciate you having taken the time to post this. both of my kids and quite a few of my friends are serious dog owners. My older daughter spends every weekend taking her golden to various dog events, such as hunting, agility, tracking and retrieving competitions. the dog is a master senior hunter and as I posted earlier, qualified at Westminster for the finals in agility. The dog goes to a doggie chiropractor, and gets regular warm water massages. My other daughter, for some reason, has a natural attraction for animals. On more than one occasion, while swimming, wild dolphins would swim in and pay with her. In order to keep up with them, I have had to learn something about animals, Just as they had to learn something about art and music, in order to keep up with me and my wife. I understand, completely. I've had dogs and cats (I'm more of a cat person myself, but, others in the family are dog people) my entire life. We've been known to take in strays and rescue abused critters since I was a kid. My mom presently has five pitbulls of various sub breeds that are rescue animals. Loving creatures, with a bad reputation based on ignorance. They are like family. -- PeterN |
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wrote: You think the Mac is immune? far more imune than PC's no mac as far as I know has been infected by the lastest worm that afect the NHS and another 200,000 odd users. The latest worm is a win32 PE executable. Your mac, without additional work on your end cannot execute the program. It wasn't written for your mac. So, your example, is a bad one. it's not a bad example at all. it's one example of many that shows that malware on a mac is *far* less of a problem than on windows. That does *not* mean malware written specifically to take advantage of mac users doesn't exist. infact, it does. it does, but it's rare and relies on the user to do something stupid. the exploit is not the mac, but the person using it. there isn't any mac malware that propagates entirely on its own. But, Mac doesn't have the userbase that Windows systems do. Rather, it's a niche market for malware authors interest. wrong. while the raw numbers of macs aren't as high, it's a *very* lucrative market for a number of reasons. the problem is that it's very difficult to write effective malware on a mac. it must rely on tricking the user to do something, at which point it's not a mac exploit, but rather a human exploit. there is no end to human exploits. it's easy to trick people. Hospitals don't routinely use Macs. yes they do, as well as a significant number of ios devices. while windows may be the most common, it's not the only system in use. They're overpriced and incapable of competing against a PC with the same level of money dumped into it. They do good (ie: struggle) to compete with an inexpensive PC these days. complete nonsense. not only do macs *not* struggle, but they are competitively priced with similar pcs, often less expensive. If one should put the cash a typical mac costs into a PC clone, the mac doesn't stand a chance. Macs used to specialize in graphics design, and photography work; but, the newer video cards and software available for the PC made the mac unable to realistically compete there either. At best, it's become a level playing field now. level playing field means they *do* compete and are *not* overpriced or struggling. can't have it both ways. Macs used to have the schools in the US on essential lockdown, but, that's changed too. Now adays, kids are sent home with Windows based laptops on lease from the school, typically budget Dells (in this area) nope. schools have mostly moved to chromebooks. there are also a lot of ipads in use too. In fact, Pixar (Now Disneys company) uses PC clones to do the animated 'movies' you see these days. Not macs. absolutely false. movies are processed on a linux-based render farm, with mostly macs on editor's desks. windows is for the boring ****, like payroll. https://www.quora.com/Which-Disney-o...ve-been-render ed-on-the-2013-Mac-Pro Macs are used at Pixar primarily for storyboarding, art, editing, sound, and administration - including a large fleet of laptops. Also for the menus at the cafe and kiosk-style displays in the art galleries. Animation is done on Linux boxes, and rendering on racks of servers running Linux. Some Windows machines are used in administration, payroll, the phone system, building management, and such. - Craig Good, An original PIxar employee. Worked there 31 years. That's what you get for choosing to remain closed and proprietary. Left behind. nope. mac os is *less* proprietary than windows is. much of it is open source. almost none of windows is open source. that's slowly changing, however. microsoft is starting to do more with open source and even embracing linux, something they trashed a decade ago. I don't need that knowlege and I very much doubt you could teach it anyway. LOL! The individual I tried to warn you about would disagree with you. I'm infamous as a former blackhat. I've got quite the reputation that he enjoys reminding me of at times. Some of my 'work' was written about in Rolling Stone magazine. So, doubt all you like. bull****. As presently, you're spreading FUD. You're probably okay with that, but, it is annoying for those of us who know better. You know better by telling peole to download zip files because no harmn can come of it. ? A .zip file by itself is harmless. by itself sure. once it's unzipped, not so much. You actually run a better risk of something nasty coming from a pdf... that depends on the pdf viewer. some are safer than others. it will never go away while the ignorant download things without any thought. What part of, downloading something doesn't automatically result in an 'infection' is too complicated for you to understand? absolutely false. it *can*. which is why I donlt trust starngers offering zips. I understand. You're a bit of a technological idiot, and, you think a .zip file by itself if you download it can infect you. Ignorance is a curable condition, but, what you suffer from, there's just no cure. You can't fix stupid. you prove that quite well. But you can't post a text file or a PDF of such things only a zip. A PDF actually presents more of a danger to you. I could slip you a mickey with a pdf file much easier than I could a zip file. The PDF can contain code that you wouldn't know was there, until your PDF viewer of choice executed it for you (pending your pdf viewer is exploitable, and, it most likely is) And, by then, it's too late. since pdf is a native format on a mac, there is no 'pdf viewer'. while there might be a way exploit pdf on a mac, it's rather unlikely and getting more unlikely all the time. your 'special' pdf is almost certainly *not* going to do much of anything. http://www.esecurityplanet.com/secur...nd-How-to-Avoi d-Them-3932511.htm tl;dr - don't install adobe acrobat or flash on any platform. Ypou can post a link that actual gives information rather than just a download link, a sign of a scammer if you knew anything about security or malware yuo should know that these sort of things are what you don't access in anyway. You think I know nothing about security and/or malware do you? not as much as you think you do, and very little of what you know is applicable to macs. you're also not the only person who knows about security. |
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Overall, I find this entire thread quite hilarious... it stems from someone
for whatever reason has a case of claimed butthurt and they're trying to subsequently rationalize their lame use of a .zip file to hoodwink some disinterested third parties who don't know them from Adam into not only believing their "story", but also that they should download a non-trustable file. Thanks, but no. Troll boy needs to give up and go back to his Mommy's dogs for the supposed 'sympathy' they're soliciting for. The whole act is hokey. And, even if it was legit, invariably ancient news that's no longer germane. -hh |
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On 5/20/2017 9:00 AM, Diesel wrote:
Whisky-dave Fri, 19 May 2017 10:08:54 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote: [snip] I don't download vunerable viewers. How would you know if it was when you downloaded it? The vulnerability reports tend to come after the fact. I stick to the ones most used, presently I have 3 browsers running. firefox, chrome and safari, ech have their own uses or rather I put them to specific uses. Those are browsers...Your knowledge of IT leaves a bit to be desired... As far as the three browsers you just listed, all three of them have had vulnerabilites and patches issued as a result of the ones identified. That does *not* mean they've all been identified, yet, either. Likely pointless to explain why one in particular isn't so good from a privacy POV. someone calling themselves emailed mt this morining with a zip attachment called 5566046.zip do you think I should open that zip if so why ? The .zip file itself, short of using a vulnerable archiving tool (and don't bother claiming that doesn't exist, I cited winzip only because of it's popularity and it's had several issues) poses no threat whatsoever to you. It's ONLY a file container with compression. It's the contents within that matters. I tried to explain that to you previously, but, you wouldn't listen. I thought all the big boys use .rar At least on the Usenet binary groups. I also had a crypto man tell that a properly passworded rar file was almost impossible to break. He said zip was very insecure. |
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