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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
Can you help with technical and legal background information on how to use
a True-Type copyrighted font correctly with laypeople and printers? Two areas of concern where I ask advice based on your experience: 1. Technical (how do I embed the TT font in PowerPoint 2007?) 2. Legal (what am I supposed to do for copyright stuff?) Specifically on the technical, I just want to embed the font into PPT 2007: A. When I modify a multi-page PowerPoint with custom signs, it looks good. B. But when I send that PowerPoint to neighbors the fonts are all jumbled. C. I have "RoadGeek 2005 Series B" TT fonts, but I can't expect them to load fonts so I just want the font to be embedded inside the the editable Powerpoint file (where everyone has Powerpoint on either a Mac or Windows). http://texaphoto.com/fonts/roadgeek-...eries-3-b.html Specifically on the legal, I just want to be legally correct: a. This page tries to explain the legal requirements. https://www.onlinewebfonts.com/downl...1beacfc13bb8b3 b. It says something about "css" notifications as shown below. Quote:
In summary, I ask for your advice on two questions. Q1: How do I embed a TT font into PowerPoint 2007 for others to edit, and, Q2: What is this "css" legal stuff and I do I comply with it in PPT 2007? -- Note that PDF is not in the picture, nor are screenshots, as the need is to edit this Powerpoint 2007 file forever over time as needed by various individuals. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
In article , Chaya Eve
wrote: Two areas of concern where I ask advice based on your experience: 1. Technical (how do I embed the TT font in PowerPoint 2007?) rtfm 2. Legal (what am I supposed to do for copyright stuff?) consult with a licensed attorney in your area. Specifically on the technical, I just want to embed the font into PPT 2007: A. When I modify a multi-page PowerPoint with custom signs, it looks good. B. But when I send that PowerPoint to neighbors the fonts are all jumbled. then you ****ed up. C. I have "RoadGeek 2005 Series B" TT fonts, but I can't expect them to load fonts so I just want the font to be embedded inside the the editable Powerpoint file (where everyone has Powerpoint on either a Mac or Windows). http://texaphoto.com/fonts/roadgeek-...eries-3-b.html Specifically on the legal, I just want to be legally correct: that's a first. a. This page tries to explain the legal requirements. https://www.onlinewebfonts.com/downl...1beacfc13bb8b3 no it doesn't. there's a contact link at that site. ask them what is required. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
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Chaya Eve wrote: Can you help with technical and legal background information on how to use a True-Type copyrighted font correctly with laypeople and printers? Two areas of concern where I ask advice based on your experience: 1. Technical (how do I embed the TT font in PowerPoint 2007?) 2. Legal (what am I supposed to do for copyright stuff?) I can't answer the first. The second depends entirely on the end-user license agreement of the font in question. Some allow embedding; others do not. Andre -- To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail service. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 21:51:05 +0100, Good Guy
wrote: This is a Windows 10 newsgroup, It's also a Mac newsgroup where the problem is that the Macs can't handle fonts as well as Windows does (and where some users are on the Mac). "First off, if you use a Mac version of Office, you can skip the rest of this page. Mac PowerPoint can't embed fonts, and it can't use fonts that have been embedded by a Windows version of PowerPoint. That's a real pity and a real impediment to cross-platform compatibility." http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00076_Embedding_fonts.htm But embedding fonts on Windows is also sometimes problematic. "Next, if you're trying to embed OpenType (OTF) fonts, see You cannot embed an Adobe OpenType font in a document in an Office program. Note that this applies to fonts with an .OTF extension. Some fonts will appear in Control Panel | Fonts with an "O" icon and identify themselves as OpenType, but will have a .TTF extension." This question will require someone who knows what they're talking about, and not someone with an opinion (which everyone has) about fonts so it's best that you and that nospam clod just leave the conversation sooner rather than later. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:59:14 GMT, Tim wrote:
As far as the legality is concerned, the real issue is 'Is this going to produce income for me/for the entity I work for/for the customer I am creating this for? No income whatsoever. It's just a set of custom private property signs befitting of California Penal Code 602L (e.g., 2-inch letters, greater than one square foot in area, etc.). I am assuming you downloaded this font for free. Yup. This comes to the real issue with imbedding the font. By doing so you are distributing the IP of the creator without their permission, unless they have granted it as part of the download process. Interesting observation where I can add a text to the last page of the PowerPoint documentation, but it's not going to show up on the sign itself. It may seem like splitting hairs, but if instead of imbedding the font, you make it clear that the recipient needs to download the font themselves in order to make your work product work properly. I understand what you're saying. It's too much work for others but if those are the rules, then those are the rules. At the moment, I just want to embed the font into PowerPoint and then let others do what they want with the document since we have a printer who will print them for us for free at the local high school. Since the school is involved, I just want the legality to be covered even as there is no cost and this is part of the projects for the kids. Thanks for your observations! |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
In article , Chaya Eve
wrote: This is a Windows 10 newsgroup, It's also a Mac newsgroup where the problem is that the Macs can't handle fonts as well as Windows does (and where some users are on the Mac). nonsense. macs set the standard for font handling. also, true type fonts were a collaboration between apple and microsoft to compete with adobe. you've also confirmed that you're nothing more than a troll, not that there was any doubt. "First off, if you use a Mac version of Office, you can skip the rest of this page. Mac PowerPoint can't embed fonts, and it can't use fonts that have been embedded by a Windows version of PowerPoint. That's a real pity and a real impediment to cross-platform compatibility." http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00076_Embedding_fonts.htm that is specific to powerpoint, not mac os. there are other presentation apps, including ones that *aren't* available on windows. But embedding fonts on Windows is also sometimes problematic. "Next, if you're trying to embed OpenType (OTF) fonts, see You cannot embed an Adobe OpenType font in a document in an Office program. Note that this applies to fonts with an .OTF extension. Some fonts will appear in Control Panel | Fonts with an "O" icon and identify themselves as OpenType, but will have a .TTF extension." so windows isn't as good as you claim. what a surprise. not. This question will require someone who knows what they're talking about, and not someone with an opinion (which everyone has) about fonts so it's best that you and that nospam clod just leave the conversation sooner rather than later. it's best that you troll elsewhere. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On 2017-09-08 19:21:06 +0000, Andre G. Isaak said:
In article , Chaya Eve wrote: Can you help with technical and legal background information on how to use a True-Type copyrighted font correctly with laypeople and printers? Two areas of concern where I ask advice based on your experience: 1. Technical (how do I embed the TT font in PowerPoint 2007?) 2. Legal (what am I supposed to do for copyright stuff?) I can't answer the first. The second depends entirely on the end-user license agreement of the font in question. Some allow embedding; others do not. In terms of just embedding fonts, you can sometimes get around that by changing the text using those fonts to outlines (e.g. in Adobe Illustrator or InDesign) or creating a bitmap image of the text (e.g. in Adobe Photoshop or any graphics appliction). InDesign specifically warns you that you can't embed some fonts when trying to create a PDF using them. BUT it may still be against the font's license agreement to do even that. As always, you have to carefully read all the smallprint, but the problem is that it's often buried in so much legalese that it's near-impossible for any normal person to understand it. :-\ I don't know, but creating a bitmap image of the text may be the only way to "embed" the font into a PowerPoint presentation. It was certainly the only way to add text using fancy fonts to webpages before "web fonts" came along. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 10:32:45 +1200, Your Name wrote:
In terms of just embedding fonts, you can sometimes get around that by changing the text using those fonts to outlines (e.g. in Adobe Illustrator or InDesign) or creating a bitmap image of the text (e.g. in Adobe Photoshop or any graphics appliction). InDesign specifically warns you that you can't embed some fonts when trying to create a PDF using them. If necessary, outlines should work because we are only going to print to plastic cutouts to lay on the 12"x18" steel sign surface. BUT it may still be against the font's license agreement to do even that. As always, you have to carefully read all the smallprint, but the problem is that it's often buried in so much legalese that it's near-impossible for any normal person to understand it. :-\ Since "Roadgeek 2005 Series B" is a common free font for road signs, the "small print" is almost non existent. The font is freely available everywhere, where a simple search turns it up in scores of web sites. But nowhere is the license agreement in the least complex. https://www.onlinewebfonts.com/search?q=roadgeek The license says: "This font may be freely distributed and used provided copyright notifications remain intact." The copyright says: "Copyright (c) Michael D. Adams, 2005. All rights reserved." So how do you maintain a copyright notice intact in PowerPoint 2007? I don't know, but creating a bitmap image of the text may be the only way to "embed" the font into a PowerPoint presentation. It was certainly the only way to add text using fancy fonts to webpages before "web fonts" came along. I understand that you're saying to use a bitmat block image (picture) of the text in PowerPoint that is distributed. But how is that done? Is there a button to convert fonts to bitmap in PowerPoint? |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 13:21:06 -0600, "Andre G. Isaak"
wrote: The second depends entirely on the end-user license agreement of the font in question. Some allow embedding; others do not. As stated in the OP, the font is a standard free font for road signs. And, as stated in the OP, the question is a specific question of that font. Specifically "Roadgeek 2005 Series B", as stated in the OP: https://www.onlinewebfonts.com/downl...1beacfc13bb8b3 As explained there, the "license" line simply says: "This font may be freely distributed and used provided copyright notifications remain intact" And as explained there, the "trademark" line simply says: "Copyright (c) Michael D. Adams, 2005. All rights reserved." There is a trademark line: "Roadgeek 2005 Series B is a trademark of Michael D. Adams." I can find no contact information for this Mr. Adams. There is nothing about embedding that I can find anywhere on the net. |
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Technical & legal background using copyrighted fonts in custom road signs in PowerPoint
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 23:41:48 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
wrote: Microsoft always finds a way to ****ify their software. This has nothing to do with the Mac, only with Microsoft's incompetence. You two clueless clods have already proven you know nothing about the topic. As stated prior it's best that you and that nospam clueless clod just leave the conversation sooner rather than later because this isn't about your pet peeves. The question is about: Q1: Embedding a specific font into both Mac & Windows PowerPoint 2007. Q2: Complying with the legal agreement that the copyright remain intact. Embedding a font into Windows PowerPoint 2007 is described he https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-powerpoint The line of interest on embedding in that summary is: "You can embed any TrueType font ... if they do not have license restrictions." An embedding problem we need to solve is described he http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00076_Embedding_fonts.htm The line of interest on embedding in that summary is: "Mac versions of PowerPoint can't embed fonts or use fonts that have been embedded by a Windows version of PowerPoint." The second question is complying with the legal agreement. http://www.fontspace.com/michael-d-adams/roadgeek-2005 The line of interest in the legal agreement is: "The license is freeware, non commercial." Despite you having whooshed on the question, the question was clear. Since you have already proven you know absolutely nothing of the topic, it's best that you two clueless clods leave the conversation sooner rather than later. |
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