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Old August 25th 09, 04:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:44:40 GMT, Mike -- Email Ignored
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:31:30 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote:

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I've got a V700 and use it for everything from documents to scanning and
printing negatives. The only criticism I've had is its ability to detect
stray fragments of cat fur. However, the fur problem is slowly leaving
us, now that the cat has died (aged 21) .



Eric Stevens


Sorry to hear that.

Mike.


Sorry that the scanner can easily detect cat fur? Or sorry that that
problem is now dissipating and you wish he still had that problem? I don't
get it. If the second reason then that's just mean.


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Old August 25th 09, 09:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:44:40 GMT, Mike -- Email Ignored
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:31:30 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote:

[...]

I've got a V700 and use it for everything from documents to scanning and
printing negatives. The only criticism I've had is its ability to detect
stray fragments of cat fur. However, the fur problem is slowly leaving
us, now that the cat has died (aged 21) .



Eric Stevens


Sorry to hear that.

21 is a ripe old age for a cat. She had a fair run.



Eric Stevens
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Old August 25th 09, 10:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:52:18 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
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If you get the film height exactly right, the V700/V750 gets very close to
the Nikon film scanners. But it's hard to get the height right. Even without
getting it perfect, they'll make a nice 5x7 from a sharp 35mm slide.


What do you mean by "film height"? Height above the scanning glass?
Why not just place the negs right on the glass?

Wally

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Old August 25th 09, 11:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Wally" wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:52:18 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
wrote:

If you get the film height exactly right, the V700/V750 gets very close to
the Nikon film scanners. But it's hard to get the height right. Even
without
getting it perfect, they'll make a nice 5x7 from a sharp 35mm slide.


What do you mean by "film height"? Height above the scanning glass?


Yes.

Why not just place the negs right on the glass?


Because the Epson scanners operate in a different mode when you tell them to
scan film in a holder. In that mode, the plane of optimal focus is a few mm
above the glass. In the V700, this mode of operation also uses a different
lens that gives a bit more magnification.

For 8x10 film, the Epson V700 has you place the film on the glass.

But the correct answer is: that's something worth trying that I haven't
gotten around to yet. That wouldn't use the second lens and it'd be
difficult to keep the film straight, but the focus bit might be less of a
hassle.

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Old August 26th 09, 05:15 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:19:42 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
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"Wally" wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:52:18 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
wrote:

If you get the film height exactly right, the V700/V750 gets very close to
the Nikon film scanners. But it's hard to get the height right. Even
without
getting it perfect, they'll make a nice 5x7 from a sharp 35mm slide.


What do you mean by "film height"? Height above the scanning glass?


Yes.

Why not just place the negs right on the glass?


Because the Epson scanners operate in a different mode when you tell them to
scan film in a holder. In that mode, the plane of optimal focus is a few mm
above the glass. In the V700, this mode of operation also uses a different
lens that gives a bit more magnification.

For 8x10 film, the Epson V700 has you place the film on the glass.

But the correct answer is: that's something worth trying that I haven't
gotten around to yet. That wouldn't use the second lens and it'd be
difficult to keep the film straight, but the focus bit might be less of a
hassle.


I have the V700 and have been wondering about that. It would be worth
trying... could do 7 strips of 35mm film in one go... hopefully the
film lies flat. (Those scans would probably come in at 2 GB each...
would soon require a new hard drive.)

But... I'm doing negs, and am finding that each neg has to be adjusted
for color and density separately. Scanning 7 strips all with the same
settings might not work very well.

What are the differences in the lenses? Is the 8x10" lens maybe not
optimal for 35mm?

Wally

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Old August 26th 09, 07:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Wally" wrote:

I have the V700 and have been wondering about that. It would be worth
trying... could do 7 strips of 35mm film in one go... hopefully the
film lies flat. (Those scans would probably come in at 2 GB each...
would soon require a new hard drive.)

But... I'm doing negs, and am finding that each neg has to be adjusted
for color and density separately. Scanning 7 strips all with the same
settings might not work very well.


Yes. I shoot medium format, and think that any frame worth scanning is worth
spending time on, but when one has a monster stack of old family negs, one
would like to be able to work faster.

What are the differences in the lenses? Is the 8x10" lens maybe not
optimal for 35mm?


Epson claims that the second (film) lens is higher resolution. My guess is
that it's higher magnification and only sees the center 2/3 or so of the
scan area. But the practical resolution of these things is a tiny fraction
of the advertised resolution, so there may not be all that much difference.

FWIW, a quick attempt at scanning film on the carrier glass didn't do very
well. The scan is much softer than a scan at the film holder's normal
height, which is in turn much worse than a Nikon 8000 scan of the same
negative. When I have some time, I really need to find the optimal height
(I'm using the MF film holder from http://betterscanning.com/, which allows
the height to be adjusted and has a glass plate to hold negatives flat).

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Tokyo, Japan




 




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