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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
or just give it to them along with photos? -- ************************************************** ************************** **************************** ~ Proverb 28 - 2: When there is moral rot within a nation, its government topples easily.~ |
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BlackVelvet writes:
or just give it to them along with photos? I usually provide customers with scans. In some cases, I'm willing to part with the negatives, if there is no supplementary value to me of the photos for stock uses. Unlike most photographers, I only charge for the photography and a one-time ("royalty-free") fee for reproduction rights, and then the customer can do anything he wants with the photos, so if I have no reason to want to ever reuse the images, there's no reason not to give him the negatives, if he wants them. And since scanning takes a huge amount of time, this is actually a better option for me as well, if I don't need to keep possession of the negatives. I do retain the copyright in all cases, but the rights I grant to the client are so liberal that he can essentially do whatever he wants with the images, anyway. This is all for individual clients. For corporate and business clients, I'm not quite so generous. They pay for the specific images and uses they want. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
or just give it to them along with photos?
I didn't when I was in business and wouldn't if I were doing it today. You can make good money on reprints. Plus, quality control is in your hands. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
Randall Ainsworth wrote:
or just give it to them along with photos? I didn't when I was in business and wouldn't if I were doing it today. You can make good money on reprints. Plus, quality control is in your hands. If I had a photographer take a picture for me, I'd want the negative and all rights associated with the picture. For example I'd never hire someone to click my wedding pics/family pics if I didnt have the negatives. I want those for life, not for the life of the photographers business who as you say makes good money from reprints. IMHO the photographer has made his share of the money in the fee for clicking the picture. Also I would not want my pictures to be displayed anywhere in the photographers shop or used as stock photos or anything else without my explcit permission (which I would never give). As for film this is easy to enforce but digitals is another issue, the photographer can just make file copies for himself, but I can tell you I'd be mighty ****ed to see a photo appear somewhere that I was unaware of and would never recommend that photographer. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
Historically, the photographs (the negatives or raw digital images in
today's world) have always been the property of the photographer, not the client. We are artists, not technicians, and our work belongs to us. The client simply purchases the right to view, publish, or own reproductions of our work. However, back when I was doing wedding photography, I did allow my clients to purchase the negatives from me. In fact, I prefered that they do. I charged a hefty fee for the negs, but then I didn't have to put out any more time and effort hand holding weapy brides and dealing with grooms trying to prove their manhood by "negotiating" with the photographer. I never sold the negs on my other work. Nor would I. Clients with "SD"'s attitude were referred elsewhere. Life's too short. Walt "SD" wrote in message ... If I had a photographer take a picture for me, I'd want the negative and all rights associated with the picture. For example I'd never hire someone to click my wedding pics/family pics if I didnt have the negatives. I want those for life, not for the life of the photographers business who as you say makes good money from reprints. IMHO the photographer has made his share of the money in the fee for clicking the picture. Also I would not want my pictures to be displayed anywhere in the photographers shop or used as stock photos or anything else without my explcit permission (which I would never give). As for film this is easy to enforce but digitals is another issue, the photographer can just make file copies for himself, but I can tell you I'd be mighty ****ed to see a photo appear somewhere that I was unaware of and would never recommend that photographer. |
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SD writes:
If I had a photographer take a picture for me, I'd want the negative and all rights associated with the picture. Your expectation is unrealistic unless you are paying a great deal for the photos. Even then, you generally won't get the copyright itself, jsut reproduction rights. For example I'd never hire someone to click my wedding pics/family pics if I didnt have the negatives. I want those for life, not for the life of the photographers business who as you say makes good money from reprints. Here again, you may have to shop around for a long time. IMHO the photographer has made his share of the money in the fee for clicking the picture. That is often true, which is why I don't try to make money off prints. The exception is photos that have additional value beyond what they represent to the original client commissioning them (as stock photos, for example). Also I would not want my pictures to be displayed anywhere in the photographers shop or used as stock photos or anything else without my explcit permission (which I would never give). Now I'm beginning to wonder if you can find anyone at all who meets all your conditions. Few photographers are going to relinquish this right. As for film this is easy to enforce but digitals is another issue, the photographer can just make file copies for himself, but I can tell you I'd be mighty ****ed to see a photo appear somewhere that I was unaware of and would never recommend that photographer. You'd be mighty lucky to find a photographer in the first place, given all the conditions you impose. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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"Randall Ainsworth" :
... I didn't when I was in business and wouldn't if I were doing it today. You can make good money on reprints. Plus, quality control is in your hands. let me insert my question on topic in your discussion is it common practice to give away negatives/scans to photo agency without any obligations from the agency? i have just that case: photo stock agency wants all my negatives (return after 45 days) then i should wait for "their call". i called 'em suckers, they said it's "common practice".... -- ian green Xeto : photo & graphic project http://xeto.front.ru .. |
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Do you guys sell the negative or jpg file to customer?
If I had a photographer take a picture for me, I'd want the negative and
all rights associated with the picture. For example I'd never hire someone to click my wedding pics/family pics if I didnt have the negatives. I want those for life, not for the life of the photographers business who as you say makes good money from reprints. IMHO the photographer has made his share of the money in the fee for clicking the picture. Also I would not want my pictures to be displayed anywhere in the photographers shop or used as stock photos or anything else without my explcit permission (which I would never give). It's not just about the money. If I give you the negatives, you take them to Wally World for reprints (assuming the can print from 2 1/4 square) and they look like crap...people will ask who took those crappy pictures. It reflects negatively (no pun intended) on the photographer. |
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Well said....& dead right!
Les "Randall Ainsworth" wrote in message ... If I had a photographer take a picture for me, I'd want the negative and all rights associated with the picture. For example I'd never hire someone to click my wedding pics/family pics if I didnt have the negatives. I want those for life, not for the life of the photographers business who as you say makes good money from reprints. IMHO the photographer has made his share of the money in the fee for clicking the picture. Also I would not want my pictures to be displayed anywhere in the photographers shop or used as stock photos or anything else without my explcit permission (which I would never give). It's not just about the money. If I give you the negatives, you take them to Wally World for reprints (assuming the can print from 2 1/4 square) and they look like crap...people will ask who took those crappy pictures. It reflects negatively (no pun intended) on the photographer. |
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