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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. It
says that you first put the mirror up and then trip the shutter with a shutter release cable, or if you don't have a release cable you just move the mirror up button back and it will trip the shutter. Now my question is, Would that not defeat the purpose of the mirror up operation? I mean how can you trip the shutter by grabbing a little knob that is hard enough to turn when it is not during an exposure, and maintaining the camera still enough to trip it? I have a cable release but I'm asking about that time when you forgot to bring it along or that doesn't work for some reason. Have I got this right? Thanks. Ric. P.S. I'm assuming the obvious that the camera and shutter are wound and all the dark slide and common sense things are taken care of at this point. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Ric Trexell wrote:
I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. It says that you first put the mirror up and then trip the shutter with a shutter release cable, or if you don't have a release cable you just move the mirror up button back and it will trip the shutter. Now my question is, Would that not defeat the purpose of the mirror up operation? I mean how can you trip the shutter by grabbing a little knob that is hard enough to turn when it is not during an exposure, and maintaining the camera still enough to trip it? I have a cable release but I'm asking about that time when you forgot to bring it along or that doesn't work for some reason. Have I got this right? Thanks. Ric. Mirror lockup without a tripod and release is sort of self defeating, IMO. eg: not something worth worrying about if you're not set up properly in the first place. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Ric Trexell wrote: I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. Have I got this right? Thanks. Ric. Mirror lockup without a tripod and release is sort of self defeating, IMO. eg: not something worth worrying about if you're not set up properly in the first place. ************************************************** *************** The tripod comes under the obvious along with the dark slide removed. I must have it right as I saw doing it without the cable release as self defeating. I think you are going to move the camera if you try it that way. Sounds like a selling point, 'hey you can do it without a cable release, but don't blame your blurred pictures on the camera.' Thanks, Ric. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Ric Trexell wrote,on my timestamp of 1/03/2009 8:23 AM:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Ric Trexell wrote: I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. Have I got this right? Thanks. Ric. Mirror lockup without a tripod and release is sort of self defeating, IMO. eg: not something worth worrying about if you're not set up properly in the first place. ************************************************** *************** The tripod comes under the obvious along with the dark slide removed. I must have it right as I saw doing it without the cable release as self defeating. I think you are going to move the camera if you try it that way. Sounds like a selling point, 'hey you can do it without a cable release, but don't blame your blurred pictures on the camera.' Thanks, Ric. You can actually trip the thing without the double cable. Just use a normal single cable attached to the lens connector: press the normal shutter button and the mirror flips up, then use the single cable to trigger the shutter in the lens. If the tripod is solid enough, you can indeed twiddle the button and get it to trigger the shutter: you have to pull it out to set the mirror up control but to reset/trigger, all it takes is a small rotation instead of a rotate/pull. But without a cable it's upstream paddling, really. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Ric Trexell wrote:
I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. It says that you first put the mirror up and then trip the shutter with a shutter release cable, or if you don't have a release cable you just move the mirror up button back and it will trip the shutter. Now my question is, Would that not defeat the purpose of the mirror up operation? Yes. But it is fine to have a way to return the camera to a usable state, (even) if you do not have a cable release handy. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Q.G. de Bakker wrote:
Ric Trexell wrote: I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. It says that you first put the mirror up and then trip the shutter with a shutter release cable, or if you don't have a release cable you just move the mirror up button back and it will trip the shutter. Now my question is, Would that not defeat the purpose of the mirror up operation? Yes. But it is fine to have a way to return the camera to a usable state, (even) if you do not have a cable release handy. I second that opinion. I think it's just a way to get back to a working state in case cable is unavailable or not functioning (hard to imagine). |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Dave wrote:
Q.G. de Bakker wrote: Ric Trexell wrote: I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation. It says that you first put the mirror up and then trip the shutter with a shutter release cable, or if you don't have a release cable you just move the mirror up button back and it will trip the shutter. Now my question is, Would that not defeat the purpose of the mirror up operation? Yes. But it is fine to have a way to return the camera to a usable state, (even) if you do not have a cable release handy. I second that opinion. I think it's just a way to get back to a working state in case cable is unavailable or not functioning (hard to imagine). AFAIK it's impossible with the Hasselblad 500 C/M. Once you've tripped the mirror and body shutter, you have the fire the lens shutter and expose the film. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Alan Browne wrote:
I second that opinion. I think it's just a way to get back to a working state in case cable is unavailable or not functioning (hard to imagine). AFAIK it's impossible with the Hasselblad 500 C/M. Once you've tripped the mirror and body shutter, you have the fire the lens shutter and expose the film. Nope. You just pop-off the film back, release and reset the camera, and you're fine again. But this is about an RB67. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
Q.G. de Bakker wrote:
Alan Browne wrote: I second that opinion. I think it's just a way to get back to a working state in case cable is unavailable or not functioning (hard to imagine). AFAIK it's impossible with the Hasselblad 500 C/M. Once you've tripped the mirror and body shutter, you have the fire the lens shutter and expose the film. Nope. You just pop-off the film back, release and reset the camera, and you're fine again. doh! Of course. As long as the dark slide is handy. Which is usually, but not always the case. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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Mamiya Rb67 mirror up question.
wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 2:23 pm, "Ric Trexell" wrote: I was reading the manual for the RB 67 Pro S for mirror up operation... Using a cableless release technique with the RB67, as you go to actuate the shutter, if you rotate the mirror up knob slightly forward (you'll have to pull it out a little to do this), you'll reach a point where it is "perched" to be released. Then, a very slight twist forward will release the shutter. In other words, do it in two steps, first get the mirror up knob "perched," then give it the tiny nudge it takes to release it. This is not as ideal as using a cable release, but it still is better than simply clicking the shutter release, and better even than having to pull the knob out and twist all in one motion. ************************************************** * Thanks, I'll try that. Ric. |
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