"Use your viewfinder to avoid annoying those in the audience"

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:09:49 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote:

On Mar 15, 9:52*am, "Mr. Strat" wrote:
In article , SMS

wrote:
Was at a concert last week at my kid's high school, and before it
started there were the usual requests to a) turn off your cell phones,
b) no flash photography, c) don't use LCDs on camcorders or cameras, use
the viewfinder.

As usual there were the annoying people in the audience recording the
entire performance with the LCD illuminated the whole time. I wonder if
the concertmaster even realized how few new P&S cameras and camcorders
even have a viewfinder any more.

I just shake my head when I see people using the LCD instead of the
viewfinder especially with DSLRs that have a live feed.

LCD's are only good for lining up difficult shots where the camera
can't be placed at the eye.

I dunno about that. There are many people who take better photographs
using "Live View" because they see the screen as the photograph. These
are people like my wife who don't take many photographs and aren't
really comfortable with a camera. If she uses my camera - which does
not have Live View - she cuts off heads and feet. She does well with
her P&S, though.

I think her problem with my camera is that she keeps both eyes open
and sees the scene with the eye not at the camera and thinks she's
getting it all.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

On 3/15/2011 10:09 AM, Rich wrote:

LCD's are only good for lining up difficult shots where the camera
can't be placed at the eye.

It's immaterial for compact P&S cameras since only a very few, mostly
high end, models still have a viewfinder (the Nikon Coolpix P7000 and
the Canon PowerShot G12 to be specific). The superzooms have an EVF, but
superzooms have continued to decline in popularity as the mass market
for higher end cameras has moved to D-SLRs for so many reasons.

I am extra careful with my current crop of Canon P&S cameras, all of
which have optical viewfinders, and all of which can run CHDK. They are
literally irreplaceable. With CHDK it makes the P&S cameras much more
useful, especially since when recording video the Canon firmware does
not allow zooming, but CHDK enables it. There is some motor zoom noise
in the audio when you do the zooming but it's a good trade-off. I'm a
big fan of CHDK, but I'm a bit biased because I helped write some of the
documentation for it.

Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

--
Pablo

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:46:40 +0100, Pablo wrote:

Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

The phrase "most all" means "almost all", or "nearly every", or "all but a
few". When trying to teach others conversational english in the past, it
became helpful to rephrase something in several ways, in the hopes that one
of them is understandable. English uses many strange, but commonly used,
wordings that make no sense in other language. Many euphemisms as well.
Example: if you don't know that "ball park" refers to the place that the
game of baseball is played, then a phrase like, "that price is in the
ball-park" has little meaning to others.

On 3/15/2011 12:46 PM, Pablo wrote:
Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

It means that you haven't kept your kill-files up to date.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:57:53 -0500, Better Info
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:46:40 +0100, Pablo wrote:

Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

The phrase "most all" means "almost all", or "nearly every", or "all but a
few". When trying to teach others conversational english in the past, it
became helpful to rephrase something in several ways, in the hopes that one
of them is understandable. English uses many strange, but commonly used,
wordings that make no sense in other language. Many euphemisms as well.
Example: if you don't know that "ball park" refers to the place that the
game of baseball is played, then a phrase like, "that price is in the
ball-park" has little meaning to others.

"Most all" is an americanism most likely created by people whose
native language is not english.

Another is a unique usage of the word 'already' as in "that's enough
already".

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 16/03/2011 8:07 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:57:53 -0500, Better
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:46:40 +0100, wrote:

Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

The phrase "most all" means "almost all", or "nearly every", or "all but a
few". When trying to teach others conversational english in the past, it
became helpful to rephrase something in several ways, in the hopes that one
of them is understandable. English uses many strange, but commonly used,
wordings that make no sense in other language. Many euphemisms as well.
Example: if you don't know that "ball park" refers to the place that the
game of baseball is played, then a phrase like, "that price is in the
ball-park" has little meaning to others.

"Most all" is an americanism most likely created by people whose
native language is not english.

Another is a unique usage of the word 'already' as in "that's enough
already".

Regards,

Eric Stevens

Another seems to be "could have" when the writer means the exact
opposite and should have written "couldn't have" or "could not have" to
have made proper sense.
The same appears to happen with the word "should".
It is very frustrating as a native English speaker to see this.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:00:55 -0700, SMS wrote:

On 3/15/2011 12:46 PM, Pablo wrote:
Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

It means that you haven't kept your kill-files up to date.


Then he'd be just as ignorant as you are from poking your own eyes out. I
guess the only way you can feel comfortable as a well-known TROLL is if you
can convince the rest of the world to become just as ignorant as you are,
using your very same methods. Enjoy your deep bliss of self-induced
ignorance (and, as we've seen, deep psychoses as well), it all becomes you.
Luckily, for those smarter than you (nearly everyone on the planet), it
doesn't have to become them as well.

On 3/15/11 12:36 PM, in article ,
"tony cooper" wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:09:49 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote:

On Mar 15, 9:52*am, "Mr. Strat" wrote:
In article , SMS

wrote:
Was at a concert last week at my kid's high school, and before it
started there were the usual requests to a) turn off your cell phones,
b) no flash photography, c) don't use LCDs on camcorders or cameras, use
the viewfinder.

As usual there were the annoying people in the audience recording the
entire performance with the LCD illuminated the whole time. I wonder if
the concertmaster even realized how few new P&S cameras and camcorders
even have a viewfinder any more.

I just shake my head when I see people using the LCD instead of the
viewfinder especially with DSLRs that have a live feed.

LCD's are only good for lining up difficult shots where the camera
can't be placed at the eye.

I dunno about that. There are many people who take better photographs
using "Live View" because they see the screen as the photograph. These
are people like my wife who don't take many photographs and aren't
really comfortable with a camera. If she uses my camera - which does
not have Live View - she cuts off heads and feet. She does well with
her P&S, though.

I think her problem with my camera is that she keeps both eyes open
and sees the scene with the eye not at the camera and thinks she's
getting it all.

Has she determined her dominant eye?

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:07:27 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:57:53 -0500, Better Info
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:46:40 +0100, Pablo wrote:

Outing Trolls is FUN! escribió:
most all

What does this mean? Serious question.

The phrase "most all" means "almost all", or "nearly every", or "all but a
few". When trying to teach others conversational english in the past, it
became helpful to rephrase something in several ways, in the hopes that one
of them is understandable. English uses many strange, but commonly used,
wordings that make no sense in other language. Many euphemisms as well.
Example: if you don't know that "ball park" refers to the place that the
game of baseball is played, then a phrase like, "that price is in the
ball-park" has little meaning to others.

"Most all" is an americanism most likely created by people whose
native language is not english.

Nonsense. Mothboy should be called out when he fabricates a life he
never led, but he's correct on this. Constructions like "Most all of
the..." are acceptable in US English. It is not at all the mark of a
non-native English speaker.

For some examples of the usage, see http://tinyurl.com/4wfe2pg.
You'll see it used by Emily Dickinson and George Washington; two
native-born Americans. The last paragraph is of particular interest
regarding the idiom status.

One mark of a person whose native language is not English is the
omission of capitalization of words like "Americanism" and "English".
It is a glaring error when done by a native-born American.

Mothboy is incorrect, however, in writing "ball park" or "ball-park".
It is a compound word that is written correctly as "ballpark".

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida