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Old September 13th 10, 09:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
irwell
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What happened to the filmless camera?
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Old September 13th 10, 09:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said:

What happened to the filmless camera?


Just use your head.
;-)


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Old September 14th 10, 06:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Neil Harrington[_5_]
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"Irwell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote:

On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said:

What happened to the filmless camera?


Mine's on the desktop beside me.


So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions
of digital cameras?
When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to
become redundant?

This was only about ten years ago.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp
``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model
Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the
expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at
large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than
when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L,
the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice
President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable
market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.''


At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's
assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention
that it does.

For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've
generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to
differentiate from film-using SLRs.



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Old September 14th 10, 09:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
irwell
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:13 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote:

"Irwell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote:

On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said:

What happened to the filmless camera?

Mine's on the desktop beside me.


So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions
of digital cameras?
When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to
become redundant?

This was only about ten years ago.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp
``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model
Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the
expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at
large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than
when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L,
the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice
President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable
market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.''


At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's
assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention
that it does.

For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've
generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to
differentiate from film-using SLRs.


Mirror-less cameras just sounds silly.
Rather like driving a carburettor-less car?
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Old September 14th 10, 09:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Neil Harrington[_5_]
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"Irwell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:13 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote:

"Irwell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote:

On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said:

What happened to the filmless camera?

Mine's on the desktop beside me.

So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions
of digital cameras?
When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to
become redundant?

This was only about ten years ago.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp
``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model
Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the
expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry
at
large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than
when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the
D-620L,
the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice
President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the
undeniable
market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.''


At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's
assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to
mention
that it does.

For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've
generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to
differentiate from film-using SLRs.


Mirror-less cameras just sounds silly.
Rather like driving a carburettor-less car?


chuckle

I'm trying to remember the last car I owned that had a carburetor.


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Old September 14th 10, 11:20 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2010-09-14 16:05:57 -0400, Irwell said:

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:13 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote:

"Irwell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:20:15 -0400, rwalker wrote:

On 2010-09-13 13:05:21 -0700, Irwell said:

What happened to the filmless camera?

Mine's on the desktop beside me.

So when did the term 'filmless' drop from descriptions
of digital cameras?
When do you expect the term 'mirrorless cameras' to
become redundant?

This was only about ten years ago.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/9903/99031802olyslr.asp
``The C-2500L filmless digital camera is the fifth filmless camera model
Olympus has revealed in the last four months. Each model surpasses the
expectations, in either features/performance or value, of the industry at
large. What better demonstration of market leadership can there be than
when a single company introduces products like the D-400 Zoom, the D-620L,
the C-2000 Zoom and now the C-2500L,'' said Ben La Marca, Group Vice
President of Digital Marketing & Development. ``Olympus is the undeniable
market leader in the filmless digital camera arena.''


At that time filmlessness was remarkable enough to mention. Today it's
assumed, and anything that still uses film is remarkable enough to mention
that it does.

For that matter, I think the D in "DSLR" is now superfluous, and I've
generally stopped using that term unless there's some reason to
differentiate from film-using SLRs.


Mirror-less cameras just sounds silly.
Rather like driving a carburettor-less car?


Or a CRT-less television (or desktop computer), caffeine-less diet
Coke, etc. I like the term Popular Photography has settled on: ILC
(interchangeable lens camera) which leaves the mirror or not mirror
(DSLR or not) out of the mix.
--
Michael

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Old September 15th 10, 03:21 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Tzortzakakis Dimitris
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? "Irwell" ?????? ??? ??????
...
What happened to the filmless camera?

When did the greenhouse effect become climatic change?
:-)


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Old September 15th 10, 09:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Allen[_3_]
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Irwell wrote:
What happened to the filmless camera?

It got a chip on its shoulder.
Allen
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Old September 15th 10, 10:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
John McWilliams
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On 9/15/10 PDT 1:59 PM, Allen wrote:
Irwell wrote:
What happened to the filmless camera?

It got a chip on its shoulder.
Allen


Ta-dum! Nice one.....

There was an attempt to produce a thin plate that'd convert a film
camera to digital format, but it got..... nowhere. Way too expensive
then to make a full size sensor in addition to other engineering and
mfg. hurdles.

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Old September 16th 10, 02:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Neil Harrington[_5_]
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"John McWilliams" wrote in message
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On 9/15/10 PDT 1:59 PM, Allen wrote:
Irwell wrote:
What happened to the filmless camera?

It got a chip on its shoulder.
Allen


Ta-dum! Nice one.....

There was an attempt to produce a thin plate that'd convert a film camera
to digital format, but it got..... nowhere. Way too expensive then to make
a full size sensor in addition to other engineering and mfg. hurdles.


Yes, that would have been nice, but . . .

I believe one big problem with late-model 35mm SLRs is that they do the
final metering touch-up by light reflected off the film surface when the
shutter opens -- and CCDs etc. just wouldn't work properly with that system.


 




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