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Pyro Staining B&W negatives vs. C-41 Monochromatic film



 
 
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Old August 18th 04, 11:04 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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"JJS" wrote in message ...
The local Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch does not like Rodinal; they place
great importance on fine grain and extreme sharpness. The member who
makes tack sharp 20x24" prints from 35mm is held in high esteem; another
member who makes 16x20" prints from Minox negs is regarded as a demi-god.


Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


The point is that Rodinal is not the best of its type. I like
sharpness AND fine grain AND nice tones AND good speed. Acutol and
FX-39 provide these in greater degree than Rodinal. There is nothing
Rodinal can do that these do not do better. Period.
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Old August 18th 04, 11:04 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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"JJS" wrote in message ...
The local Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch does not like Rodinal; they place
great importance on fine grain and extreme sharpness. The member who
makes tack sharp 20x24" prints from 35mm is held in high esteem; another
member who makes 16x20" prints from Minox negs is regarded as a demi-god.


Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


The point is that Rodinal is not the best of its type. I like
sharpness AND fine grain AND nice tones AND good speed. Acutol and
FX-39 provide these in greater degree than Rodinal. There is nothing
Rodinal can do that these do not do better. Period.
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Old August 19th 04, 04:39 AM
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:04:31 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


Is that bad ? ;))


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com
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Old August 19th 04, 04:39 AM
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:04:31 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


Is that bad ? ;))


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com
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Old August 19th 04, 04:39 AM
John
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:04:31 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


Is that bad ? ;))


Regards,

John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com
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Old August 19th 04, 04:47 AM
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:35:49 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

"Robert Vervoordt" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:04:31 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

The local Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch does not like Rodinal; they place
great importance on fine grain and extreme sharpness. The member who
makes tack sharp 20x24" prints from 35mm is held in high esteem;

another
member who makes 16x20" prints from Minox negs is regarded as a

demi-god.

Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


You do know that this was posted as a sarcastic barb, don't you?


Of course! I know you at least that well.


Me? Typo?



Robert Vervoordt, MFA
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Old August 19th 04, 04:47 AM
Robert Vervoordt
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:35:49 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

"Robert Vervoordt" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:04:31 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

The local Kamera Klub Koffee Klatch does not like Rodinal; they place
great importance on fine grain and extreme sharpness. The member who
makes tack sharp 20x24" prints from 35mm is held in high esteem;

another
member who makes 16x20" prints from Minox negs is regarded as a

demi-god.

Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


You do know that this was posted as a sarcastic barb, don't you?


Of course! I know you at least that well.


Me? Typo?



Robert Vervoordt, MFA
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Old August 19th 04, 02:09 PM
Gregory Blank
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In article ,
John wrote:

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:04:31 -0500, "JJS" wrote:

Technique for the sake of Technique is the last refuge of the
imagination-impoverished fetish case.


Is that bad ? ;))


Well right or wrong it neglects content. Then whats the point to the
work unless one is just making imagery as a technical exercise in
materials handling "processing". There are good reasons to test, but
testing in and by itself is rather drab compared to being able
to apply the tests.

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