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  #51  
Old February 22nd 18, 05:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PeterN
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Last year there was a Star Trek exhibit on the Intrepid. It combined the
original with the Next Generation. I was told that most of the actors
were nice, regular guys. William Shattner was charging for his
autograph. I leave the name for that, up to the readers.

most of them do that. they know the fans will pay, so why not.

Not when they are being paid for the appearance. And the fans are making
a generous donation to a charity.


yes when they're being paid for the appearance.

i've been to several cons and paying for autographs and/or photos is
standard fare.

the lines are long, so few people find it to be an issue.

BTW I used to represent entertainers. Most thought it beneath them to
charge for an autograph. They either declined, or gave one free. I don't
know the source for your statement, but I KNOW it's not true.


personal experience is my source.

You go to charitable events where the donation is between $500 and
$1,000 per person, and then paid for an autograph?
I have difficulty believing that.


you didn't originally say it was a charitable event.

charity != con.

as usual, you move the goalposts.

as i said, i've been to many cons and paying for autographs and/or
photos is standard.
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Old February 22nd 18, 05:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , PeterN
wrote:

In article , PeterN
wrote:
Last year there was a Star Trek exhibit on the Intrepid. It combined the
original with the Next Generation. I was told that most of the actors
were nice, regular guys. William Shattner was charging for his
autograph. I leave the name for that, up to the readers.

most of them do that. they know the fans will pay, so why not.

Not when they are being paid for the appearance. And the fans are making
a generous donation to a charity.
BTW I used to represent entertainers. Most thought it beneath them to
charge for an autograph. They either declined, or gave one free. I don't
know the source for your statement, but I KNOW it's not true.


I went to ST convention and most of the stars you had to pay for their
autographs and pay for the part where they stand on stage and answer
questions.
Depending on who they were the cost was set, some were free but most cost
money, I only went to the free ones.
But this wasn't a charity event.

I specifically was talking about charitable fund raisers.


no you weren't. you didn't say *anything* about charity. you said 'a
star trek exhibit'.
  #53  
Old February 22nd 18, 09:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2/22/2018 9:19 AM, Savageduck wrote:
PeterN wrote:
On 2/22/2018 2:36 AM, Savageduck wrote:
PeterN wrote:
On 2/21/2018 6:57 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"PeterN" wrote

| And doors that opened as you approached them.
|

There you go. No one thought of that until at
least 1960.



Since we were discussing Star Trek, and this is a photography group, I
thought these two quotes right on topic.
"For a period of time, I carried cameras with me wherever I went, and
then I realized that my interest in photography was turning toward the
conceptual. So I wasn't carrying around cameras shooting stuff, I was
developing concepts about what I wanted to shoot. And then I'd get the
camera angle and do the job. Leonard Nimoy"

"Which is probably the reason why I work exclusively in black and
white... to highlight that contrast. Leonard Nimoy"

Read more at:
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/leonard_nimoy_339414



That is another reason I like my Fujifilm X-Series MILC’s.

http://www.laroquephoto.com/blog/2016/2/11/x-pro2-acros-sooc

https://olafphotoblog.com/2016/02/13/vancouver-moments-with-the-acros-film-simulation/

http://www.hendriximages.com/blog/2017/1/29/fuji-acros-amazing-jpegs-with-film-like-grain


I never asked you about your trip. Did we miss any images?


I am still in Cape Town. I arrive home on March 8.

I feel a bit silly, as very little of my time has been behind a camera, and
I came loaded with two cameras, and a bunch of lenses. I have a good
opportunity tomorrow to grab some shots. With any luck I should get a
keeper or two.


Some of my fondest shooting memories, when I had a camera around my neck
and did not take any pictures, are of the situations. One was when my
daughter was about 8, and a pod of wild dolphins came in and the calves
started playing with her. Another time I was so fascinated, watching
whales breaching, I only took one picture. There were many other times
when I was absorbing my surroundings, that taking a picture just didn't
seem important.

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  #54  
Old February 22nd 18, 09:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2/22/2018 9:53 AM, android wrote:
On 2018-02-22 13:42:49 +0000, PeterN said:

On 2/22/2018 5:07 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:21:07 UTC, PeterNÂ* wrote:
On 2/20/2018 10:38 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

Last year there was a Star Trek exhibit on the Intrepid. It
combined the
original with the Next Generation. I was told that most of the actors
were nice, regular guys. William Shattner was charging for his
autograph. I leave the name for that, up to the readers.

most of them do that. they know the fans will pay, so why not.

Not when they are being paid for the appearance. And the fans are
making
a generous donation to a charity.
BTW I used to represent entertainers. Most thought it beneath them to
charge for an autograph. They either declined, or gave one free. I
don't
know the source for your statement, but I KNOW it's not true.

I went to ST convention and most of the stars you had to pay for
their autographs and pay for the part where they stand on stage and
answer questions.
Depending on who they were the cost was set, some were free but most
cost money, I only went to the free ones.
But this wasn't a charity event.

I specifically was talking about charitable fund raisers.


I prefer autographs on personal checks. Don't really care much about who
signs on as long as the bank honor them... :-ppp


Those were the only autographs I ever requested, or received. I gave
them to my bank, to be returned them to their originators.

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PeterN
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Old February 22nd 18, 10:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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PeterN wrote:
On 2/22/2018 9:53 AM, android wrote:
On 2018-02-22 13:42:49 +0000, PeterN said:

On 2/22/2018 5:07 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:21:07 UTC, PeterNÂ* wrote:
On 2/20/2018 10:38 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

Last year there was a Star Trek exhibit on the Intrepid. It
combined the
original with the Next Generation. I was told that most of the actors
were nice, regular guys. William Shattner was charging for his
autograph. I leave the name for that, up to the readers.

most of them do that. they know the fans will pay, so why not.

Not when they are being paid for the appearance. And the fans are
making
a generous donation to a charity.
BTW I used to represent entertainers. Most thought it beneath them to
charge for an autograph. They either declined, or gave one free. I
don't
know the source for your statement, but I KNOW it's not true.

I went to ST convention and most of the stars you had to pay for
their autographs and pay for the part where they stand on stage and
answer questions.
Depending on who they were the cost was set, some were free but most
cost money, I only went to the free ones.
But this wasn't a charity event.

I specifically was talking about charitable fund raisers.


I prefer autographs on personal checks. Don't really care much about who
signs on as long as the bank honor them... :-ppp


Those were the only autographs I ever requested, or received. I gave
them to my bank, to be returned them to their originators.


The only collectable autographs I have, my father got in 1944 one a US one
dollar Silver Certificate bank note. The most prominent of these was
Charles A. Lindbergh who toured the South-West Pacific during WWII, and
flew missions with a number of P-38 fighter squadrons. He taught these
fighter pilots how to extend the range of the P-38 which resulted in some
of the longest escort flights in the Pacific Theater. Lindbergh flew as my
father’s wingman on two such missions.

The other rare autograph on that bank note is that of Tommy McGuire the
second top scoring USAAF ace of the war. He was killed in the Philippines
in 1945. He now has McGuire Air Force Base named for him.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgpzb4ufcyk2y7u/SS59.jpeg

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Old February 23rd 18, 11:21 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2018-02-23 10:15:47 +0000, Whisky-dave said:

On Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:26:52 UTC, PeterN wrote:
On 2/22/2018 9:53 AM, android wrote:
On 2018-02-22 13:42:49 +0000, PeterN said:

On 2/22/2018 5:07 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:21:07 UTC, PeterN* wrote:
On 2/20/2018 10:38 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

Last year there was a Star Trek exhibit on the Intrepid. It
combined the
original with the Next Generation. I was told that most of the actors
were nice, regular guys. William Shattner was charging for his
autograph. I leave the name for that, up to the readers.

most of them do that. they know the fans will pay, so why not.

Not when they are being paid for the appearance. And the fans are making
a generous donation to a charity.
BTW I used to represent entertainers. Most thought it beneath them to
charge for an autograph. They either declined, or gave one free. I don't
know the source for your statement, but I KNOW it's not true.

I went to ST convention and most of the stars you had to pay for
their autographs and pay for the part where they stand on stage and
answer questions.
Depending on who they were the cost was set, some were free but most
cost money, I only went to the free ones.
But this wasn't a charity event.

I specifically was talking about charitable fund raisers.

I prefer autographs on personal checks. Don't really care much about
who signs on as long as the bank honor them... :-ppp


Those were the only autographs I ever requested, or received. I gave
them to my bank, to be returned them to their originators.

--
PeterN


I've never been sure whether autographs and signatures are the same.
Personally I;d like to see someones famous autograph and then see what
they use to sign cheques, before I'll know. The sort of peole I know
rhat sigfn cheques have never been asked for autographs so it;s why I
don't know.


Picasso preferred to pay with checks, I've heard! :-))
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  #57  
Old February 25th 18, 07:53 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2/22/2018 4:54 PM, Savageduck wrote:
PeterN wrote:
On 2/22/2018 9:53 AM, android wrote:
On 2018-02-22 13:42:49 +0000, PeterN said:

On 2/22/2018 5:07 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:21:07 UTC, PeterNÂ* wrote:
On 2/20/2018 10:38 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

Last year there was a Star Trek exhibit on the Intrepid. It
combined the
original with the Next Generation. I was told that most of the actors
were nice, regular guys. William Shattner was charging for his
autograph. I leave the name for that, up to the readers.

most of them do that. they know the fans will pay, so why not.

Not when they are being paid for the appearance. And the fans are
making
a generous donation to a charity.
BTW I used to represent entertainers. Most thought it beneath them to
charge for an autograph. They either declined, or gave one free. I
don't
know the source for your statement, but I KNOW it's not true.

I went to ST convention and most of the stars you had to pay for
their autographs and pay for the part where they stand on stage and
answer questions.
Depending on who they were the cost was set, some were free but most
cost money, I only went to the free ones.
But this wasn't a charity event.

I specifically was talking about charitable fund raisers.

I prefer autographs on personal checks. Don't really care much about who
signs on as long as the bank honor them... :-ppp


Those were the only autographs I ever requested, or received. I gave
them to my bank, to be returned them to their originators.


The only collectable autographs I have, my father got in 1944 one a US one
dollar Silver Certificate bank note. The most prominent of these was
Charles A. Lindbergh who toured the South-West Pacific during WWII, and
flew missions with a number of P-38 fighter squadrons. He taught these
fighter pilots how to extend the range of the P-38 which resulted in some
of the longest escort flights in the Pacific Theater. Lindbergh flew as my
father’s wingman on two such missions.

The other rare autograph on that bank note is that of Tommy McGuire the
second top scoring USAAF ace of the war. He was killed in the Philippines
in 1945. He now has McGuire Air Force Base named for him.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgpzb4ufcyk2y7u/SS59.jpeg


IIRC The silver certificate itself may be a collectible.


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Old February 26th 18, 02:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2/25/2018 12:53 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 2/22/2018 4:54 PM, Savageduck wrote:


heavily edited for brevity

The only collectable autographs I have, my father got in 1944 one a US
one dollar Silver Certificate bank note. The most prominent of these was
Charles A. Lindbergh who toured the South-West Pacific during WWII, and
flew missions with a number of P-38 fighter squadrons. He taught these
fighter pilots how to extend the range of the P-38 which resulted in some
of the longest escort flights in the Pacific Theater. Lindbergh
flew was my father’s wingman on two such missions.

The other rare autograph on that bank note is that of Tommy McGuire the
second top scoring USAAF ace of the war. He was killed in the Philippines
in 1945. He now has McGuire Air Force Base named for him.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgpzb4ufcyk2y7u/SS59.jpeg


IIRC The silver certificate itself may be a collectible.



Good guess. I wonder whether you're right?

John

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