Windows 10. Horrible!

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Whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 13 November 2017 16:55:08 UTC, android wrote:
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Whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 13 November 2017 15:44:04 UTC, android wrote:
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Whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 13 November 2017 10:45:30 UTC, android wrote:
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Whisky-dave wrote:

On Friday, 10 November 2017 21:02:58 UTC, Alfred Molon wrote:
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Whisky-dave says...

I don;t want a 14" screen for working on thanks I have a 27
inch
screen
at home and at work I also have a 24" screen dula monitors.

and and a keyboard and you
can't connect external HDDs to them.

I can have cloud storage and as much as I want.

The cloud won't help in places where there is no connectivity
(or
poor
connectivity).

One more thing, the notebook comes with Windows, meaning you
can
run
all
Windows software on it.

Wow what an advantage, one wonders why all PC users don't opt for
this
laptop, maybe they know better.
A mac can run mac software and PC software.

Macs are PCs...
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Not for this decusion, but then again why can;t a phone or tablet be
called a
personal computer ? because they are computers and far more personal
than
the
average desk top.

Sure they are. Macs are PCs by any meaningful definition just like
Linux
desktops are.

So linux desktops can;t be Macs, my first and last linux box was a power
Mac
7600 with SCSI drives, SCSI CD drive ll faster access than the PCs of
their
time which used slopw IDE drives.

A Linux desktop can run on Apple hardware. It would not be meaningful to
call them Macs though unless you run them in VMs.

They are still Macintosh computers. Apple, macintosh is the hardware used.
We run linux on dell computers they are still computers made by dell and we
still call them dell computers.

They are not Apple Mac systems since the OS is that pesky unsupported
Linux. You know, that big bag of hurt!



I have one under mine as it are! Phones and pads/tabs are
mobile devices...

Is a laptop a mobile device is a netbook or notbook a mobile device ?

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...
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In article , android
wrote:

I have one under mine as it are! Phones and pads/tabs are
mobile devices...

Is a laptop a mobile device is a netbook or notbook a mobile device ?

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

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nospam wrote:

In article , android
wrote:

I have one under mine as it are! Phones and pads/tabs are
mobile devices...

Is a laptop a mobile device is a netbook or notbook a mobile device ?

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp
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teleportation kills

In article , android
wrote:

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

'your', and the main use of a putter is on the green.

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nospam wrote:

In article , android
wrote:

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

'your', and the main use of a putter is on the green.

i can distinguish between your and you're but do like other on this
group commit typos. putter is common language for computer and you know
it... whooosh! :-ppp
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:49:44 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , android
wrote:

I have one under mine as it are! Phones and pads/tabs are
mobile devices...

Is a laptop a mobile device is a netbook or notbook a mobile device ?

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

For the record, I most definitely agree with you here. A smartphone is
undoubtedly a computer with all the necessary ingredients.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:55:04 +0100, android wrote:

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nospam wrote:

In article , android
wrote:

I have one under mine as it are! Phones and pads/tabs are
mobile devices...

Is a laptop a mobile device is a netbook or notbook a mobile device ?

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

Whether or not a device is a computer has nothing to do with the use
you put it to.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

Whether or not a device is a computer has nothing to do with the use
you put it to.

sure it does.

a modern autofocus camera lens has a microprocessor and firmware (which
can be updated in some cases), but they are not considered to be a
computer by any stretch of the imagination.

a smartphone is basically a desktop computer in a very small package.

embedded devices (e.g., lens, microwave oven, smart bulb, etc.) are
*very* different.

the keyboard on your desk has a microprocessor and firmware inside it,
but by itself, it's not considered to be a computer.

long ago, apple released a firmware update for the ac power adapter
used with powerbooks. nobody would consider a power adapter to be a
computer.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:24:27 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

Whether or not a device is a computer has nothing to do with the use
you put it to.

sure it does.

a modern autofocus camera lens has a microprocessor and firmware (which
can be updated in some cases), but they are not considered to be a
computer by any stretch of the imagination.

Here is the nub of it "considered". "Considered" by who? Apparently by
you.

Dedicated computers are embedded in all kinds of things ranging from
GPS to engine management systems.

a smartphone is basically a desktop computer in a very small package.

embedded devices (e.g., lens, microwave oven, smart bulb, etc.) are
*very* different.

The question is, where do you draw the line?

the keyboard on your desk has a microprocessor and firmware inside it,
but by itself, it's not considered to be a computer.

Here we go again: "considered". Other people don't 'consider' a
smartphone to be a computer.

long ago, apple released a firmware update for the ac power adapter
used with powerbooks. nobody would consider a power adapter to be a
computer.

There is no point in continuing such an ill defined argument.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

They are mobile computers...

so is a smartphone.

No...

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

Whether or not a device is a computer has nothing to do with the use
you put it to.

sure it does.

a modern autofocus camera lens has a microprocessor and firmware (which
can be updated in some cases), but they are not considered to be a
computer by any stretch of the imagination.

Here is the nub of it "considered". "Considered" by who? Apparently by
you.

everyone other than you considers a camera lens to be a camera lens,
not a computer.

Dedicated computers are embedded in all kinds of things ranging from
GPS to engine management systems.

they're not what is considered to be 'a computer'.

do you consider a tv remote control to be a computer because there is a
microprocessor in there?

what about the keyboard you're using to type your posts? there's a
microprocessor in there too.

many other devices have microprocessors, including mice, trackpads,
microwave ovens, washers, dryers, refrigerators, smartbulbs,
thermostats, door locks, doorbells, garage door openers, smoke alarms,
office phones, webcams, radios, tvs, traffic lights and much, much
more.

a smartphone is basically a desktop computer in a very small package.

embedded devices (e.g., lens, microwave oven, smart bulb, etc.) are
*very* different.

The question is, where do you draw the line?

basically, embedded versus general purpose.

it's also not a sharp line.

the keyboard on your desk has a microprocessor and firmware inside it,
but by itself, it's not considered to be a computer.

Here we go again: "considered". Other people don't 'consider' a
smartphone to be a computer.

those people are sorely mistaken, or more likely, just ignorant.

you're also avoiding the question. do you consider a keyboard to be a
computer?

be careful how you answer, because if you say yes, then apple released
a multi-processor mac in 1984, using both motorola and intel
processors.

long ago, apple released a firmware update for the ac power adapter
used with powerbooks. nobody would consider a power adapter to be a
computer.

There is no point in continuing such an ill defined argument.

that actually applies to your definition of computer, although i'd say
absurd not ill defined.

nevertheless, there's nothing ill defined about the power adapter nor
is it an argument.

that power adapter had a microprocessor with firmware. it was actually
an adb device (apple desktop bus) and could communicate with the
computer. at one point, apple released a firmware update for it. this
was in the early 1990s or so.

apple's current magsafe power adapter communicates its maximum power
capacity to the connected macbook so that its power budget can be
adjusted accordingly and not overdrive the adapter. however, it's just
an asic, not a full fledged cpu w/firmware.

and by the way, the design of usb was based on adb.