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Photography on USA trains and buses
In article , Jackie
wrote: The USA is definitely going down the tube!!! Pathetic Paranoid Jackie More because of a selfish, greed stricken population that seems to need to be hit over the fricking head with these laws to give them an ounce of common sense. When did it happen, when did all these aholes decide to move into my country ;-) -- http://www.doodie.com/index.php?date=04112004&dir=b |
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In article , Stacey
wrote: Yep they won as soon as we started reacting to the disaster. Most of these "homeland security" measures just take away our freedom and seems to assume everyone is a terrorist. We leave the borders WIDE OPEN yet enact insame measures like this? It seems anything is OK, as far as taking away our personal freedom, as long as it doesn't cost the government any money. Stacy your a terrorist :-) The government doesn't give a hoot about money they print it or take it out our pockets :-) |
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"Journalist-North" wrote: So, it's OK to photograph you as long as you don't actually see the camera? Or as long as it's only within the control of faceless and nameless government and commercial hands? BFD eh? IDIOT!!! Journalist Unless your some kind of criminal I wouldn't be concerned. -- Would you like to know the precise date of your own death? What if anything is too serious to be joked about? Do you ever spit or pick your nose in public? |
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Gordon Hudson wrote:
Over here (UK) it is generally considered anti social to take photographs in public. ??? You used to be able to video tape the school nativity play, but not any more. Nonsense. If that is your experience then the school was overreacting in the extreme. What they are required to do is seek permission from the parents of all the children in the play. If one parent objects then no group photos can be taken or the child whose parents objected can't be in them. In fact you will be a lucky to get a photo of your kid in their costume. These have to be taken by the teacher with no other children present (lest they end up in the shot) using a disposable camera. Really? Lets face it, the UK is gradually becoming the new stalinist state. Mmm, I have noticed the bread queues getting longer recently :-) -- Darcy O'Bree Media Facilities Manager Faculty of Arts, Media and Design Staffordshire University http://www.staffs.ac.uk/academic/art...n/mediacentre/ |
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Scott Schuckert wrote: Each one of these so-called security measures is a win for the terrorists.. We've done far more damage ourselves since 9/11 than the enemy did. The correct proceedure is not to make our country a police state; the enemy will get in a shot from time to time regardless of what we do. Rather, make a smoking hole of each terrorists home/city/country of origin. Eventually they'll get the idea and/or we'll run out of terrorists. (Or non-radioactive middle east real estate) So your personal level of comfort is more important than whether a lot of innocent people die. Why does your line of reasoning sound so familar. The 911 terrorists; I am sure they had something of the same ideas and values. |
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Scott Schuckert wrote:
In article , Any Each one of these so-called security measures is a win for the terrorists.. We've done far more damage ourselves since 9/11 than the enemy did. The correct proceedure is not to make our country a police state; the enemy will get in a shot from time to time regardless of what we do. Rather, make a smoking hole of each terrorists home/city/country of origin. Eventually they'll get the idea and/or we'll run out of terrorists. (Or non-radioactive middle east real estate) (OT - Yea, that approach sure works well for Israel...) As for the camera issue, how are they going to enforce it? What exactly are they trying to prevent? It's not like Osama is going to drag an 8x10 onboard and ask people to smile. If a bad guy want to take pics, he'll palm something like an Olympus Stylus, or any one of a zillion tiny digicams. Will people allow the police to pat them down and confiscate any cameras found? I'd like to think not, but fear otherwise. -Greg |
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Scott Schuckert wrote:
In article , Any Moose Poster wrote: So much for your BS post, If you actually read it, Its proposed that means people can protest the propsal. The proposal meerly states that you have to obtain permission or have valid press credentials before photographing. I am actually surprised this has taken so long to come about. And would have been surprised if I could photograph undisturbed to date. Each one of these so-called security measures is a win for the terrorists.. Agreed. While the story is a bit ambiguous, the following passage from the story illustrates a very unpleasant and ultimately unconstitutional trend; that is, the trend toward increased /licensing/ of journalism by the state. "NYC Transit, the division of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority that runs the subways, the buses and the Staten Island Railway, said the ban on photography and videotaping would not apply to journalists with valid ID cards or to people with written permission." Free speech in the form of journalistic activity is not limited to professional journalists. The state would love to completely co-opt and regulate the media and thereby have total control over information. So far the most smashing "success" has been the /embedding/ of journalists by the military in Iraq. I think it fits the the strategy of "keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer" perfectly. The result is a grossly misinformed US citizenry. No US regime is immune from this desire to co-opt the media, but the current Freakshow Junta makes slipperly slope arguments obsolete before you can even finish the first damb sentence. The words "homeland security" should not make you fall into a DEEP SLEEP and become absurdly suggestible. Corry -- It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries. http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net |
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"King Sardon" wrote in message ... The trigger-happy Americans have bombed an Iraqi wedding, and the stone-faced military brass maintain that it was a safehouse, in the face of photographic evidence to the contrary. Huh? You'd think they would lear to not bring RPGs and explosives to a wedding by now. This with the tacit support of many in the media. CNN puts articles like this in the back pages. Some-how I heard about it, but I didn't believe it. There is so much anger in the U.S. towards anything moslem that people feel good about killing "suspected terrorists" in Iraq, even if they are 3-yr old girls. Perhaps they should stop wrapping their weapons with women and children and in holy shrines. But Iraq had nothing to do with Sept. 11. Iraq is an innocent country, and virtually defenseless, invaded by a bully power blindly bent on revenge. This deserves a place on the wall of disbelief Iraq is an innocent country, and virtually defenseless? I don't have anything against Americans, just their government. I don't have anything against you except your attitude toward us. Why don't you strap on a bomb and go blow up some Iraqi citizens like your hero's do, and get it over with. I hope the world realizes that their bad attitude toward us is the reason any of this is happening. David |
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