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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether
photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ -- Eduardo Sorocaba SP Brasil www.alt119.net “Acreditamos no sonho e construĂ*mos a realidade” - Roberto Marinho |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
On 2016-10-20 00:16:27 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg It could be my refurbished eyeballs, but I believe there has been some clone/patch done work to the lower wall area to the right of the car, just below the boarded up window. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:44:00 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On 2016-10-20 00:16:27 +0000, Tony Cooper said: On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg It could be my refurbished eyeballs, but I believe there has been some clone/patch done work to the lower wall area to the right of the car, just below the boarded up window. There, and just above the horizontal slats of the garage door on the left, where they meet that panel above. I don't know what that panel is. |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
On 20/10/2016 01:16, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg The building sides at the extreme left and right are suspiciously perpendicular to the bottom edge of the photo? -- Cheers, Rob |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
On 10/19/16 PDT 11:17 PM, RJH wrote:
On 20/10/2016 01:16, Tony Cooper wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg The building sides at the extreme left and right are suspiciously perpendicular to the bottom edge of the photo? Good one. I agree, a bit of perspective correction. The panels above the left door look a bit suspicious, but not something I'd pick out if not looking for something. -- John McWilliams I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts, and beer. ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
In article , Tony Cooper wrote:
JEMM: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg The entire garage door has been cloned many times to appear closed, which is also why the car looks out of place. I'm going to assume the garage door was slightly open, and the part of the garage door that could be cloned has been cloned to cover the entire area, which is why it doesn't line up in the upper part. I.e. in the original the garage door was perhaps 20% open, but only the lower half of that area were clean enough to be cloned, so masking the car and moving that part to the bottom and the cloning it up to the upper part is what makes it crooked. -- Sandman |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
John McWilliams Wrote in message:
On 10/19/16 PDT 11:17 PM, RJH wrote: On 20/10/2016 01:16, Tony Cooper wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg The building sides at the extreme left and right are suspiciously perpendicular to the bottom edge of the photo? Good one. I agree, a bit of perspective correction. The panels above the left door look a bit suspicious, but not something I'd pick out if not looking for something. I did apply some lenscorrecton to the file and the weirdness disappered. My guess is that the lense used was subpar with heavy pincushion distortion. I could upload later if TC approves... -- Bats can't tell us apart! ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
Tony Cooper:
It seems that Sandman has the sharpest eye for manipulation... In critical cases one never need to worry about sharp eyes. An Adobe engineer told my Mac user group that Adobe employs forensic techniques that can determine whether so much as one pixel of an image has been altered from the state in which it came from the camera. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
On 2016-10-21 14:23:30 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:16:27 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg It seems that Sandman has the sharpest eye for manipulation. Here is the cropped version before the manipulation steps and rendering to black and white. https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Photo...-21-rpd-X2.jpg The oil drum removal was the sloppiest effort. The bricks have a different appearance where I removed the drum. The difficulty in removing the drum was the three different surfaces behind it, so it had to be done in four steps. (Two steps for the window area and two more for the brickwork.) The open garage door was the biggest challenge. While Sandman used "cloned", I didn't use the clone tool. I think he used "cloned" generically, though, and meant that I had copied part of something and added it somewhere else. I think the only actual cloning I did was the red sign above the car. Actually, I made a selection of the available door, copied it, and pasted it several times to close the door using layer masks and painting out where it wasn't needed. The tricky part was masking around the car. The panels above the door were not altered, but some here think they were. The judge and I went over the print after the judging. As I said, he's a friend of mine. He, too, noticed the drum removal and door closing. He didn't when he judged the photo, but when he knew there were alterations he looked at it closer and the changes were then obvious. When you know you're looking for alterations, you look at the print differently. This was done back in April, and I really don't remember if I made any perspective changes before this version. The lens was a kit Nikon 18/55. Oh well, at least my eyeballs didn't fail me on the one sector with the drum removal, but totally let me down with the garage door. All-in-all, a pretty good edit, which is aided in the coverup by the B&W treament. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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How to determine if a digital photograph has been manipulated
On 2016-10-21 16:03:19 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 08:22:33 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On 2016-10-21 14:23:30 +0000, Tony Cooper said: On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:16:27 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:19 -0200, JEMM wrote: I am frequently tasked with providing an expert opinion on whether photographs have been digitally manipulated or not. A simple examination can often reveal some limited information, but to get more accurate results, we need to look beyond a simple visual examination. Looking at a photograph, there are things to look out for when determining if it's been digitally manipulated. If the photograph is one of a series taken in burst mode, there may be inconsistencies between the set, such as light/tone variations, or pixel aspect ratio. In saying this, though, this isn't conclusive, and a more in-depth analysis is... [Continue Reading] http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/gHUji893hdY/ This photo was submitted to a historical society's calendar competition and was rejected as one that was excessively digitally manipulated. I spoke with the judge about this, and he thought that the car had been added to the photograph. That was the only reason it was rejected. The car was not added. The car was in the driveway and was one the garage had been working on. Nothing was done regarding the car. There was some digital manipulation done. You're free to try to figure out what I manipulated. https://photos.smugmug.com/Current/i...15-21-B-X2.jpg It seems that Sandman has the sharpest eye for manipulation. Here is the cropped version before the manipulation steps and rendering to black and white. https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Photo...-21-rpd-X2.jpg The oil drum removal was the sloppiest effort. The bricks have a different appearance where I removed the drum. The difficulty in removing the drum was the three different surfaces behind it, so it had to be done in four steps. (Two steps for the window area and two more for the brickwork.) The open garage door was the biggest challenge. While Sandman used "cloned", I didn't use the clone tool. I think he used "cloned" generically, though, and meant that I had copied part of something and added it somewhere else. I think the only actual cloning I did was the red sign above the car. Actually, I made a selection of the available door, copied it, and pasted it several times to close the door using layer masks and painting out where it wasn't needed. The tricky part was masking around the car. The panels above the door were not altered, but some here think they were. The judge and I went over the print after the judging. As I said, he's a friend of mine. He, too, noticed the drum removal and door closing. He didn't when he judged the photo, but when he knew there were alterations he looked at it closer and the changes were then obvious. When you know you're looking for alterations, you look at the print differently. This was done back in April, and I really don't remember if I made any perspective changes before this version. The lens was a kit Nikon 18/55. Oh well, at least my eyeballs didn't fail me on the one sector with the drum removal, but totally let me down with the garage door. All-in-all, a pretty good edit, which is aided in the coverup by the B&W treament. The black and white conversion wasn't a cover-up. The submissions were required to be in black and white. Perhaps "coverup" was a poor choice of word. Let's just say the B&W assisted in your creation of your scene. I don't feel badly about not having an image chosen for the calendar. There were over 200 submissions and 12 were chosen. I went to the reception where the 12 were shown, and the judging panel made some good choices. The subject matter was a bit ordinary and expected, though. Most of them were the "usual suspects" of the city's historical landmarks. I knew, for example, that certain landmarks would be represented and tried to avoid the usual with mine. It's a small town just north of Orlando, and there's not that much choice of historical sites. I was quite impressed, though, with the post-processing. Some very nicely done black and white conversions. Very sharp. Better than I've been doing. It is good to see that there are some challenges out there. So, since we are on the subject of manipulation, try this for size. I will post a side-by-side comparison with the unaltered original once there are a few comments. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/Demo/DNC_8018.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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