Photo Manager jungle

So with Adobe Lightroom being the lightweight new version of "Adobe Lightroom
Classic" which is the old professional tool, we're seeing an Aperture - Photos
move by Adobe as well.

Their intention is for "Lightroom" to be as powerful as "Lightroom Classic" one
day, but history tells us that this trend leaves us with cooler and slicker
looking applications where ease of use trumps functionality.

Not that that is always a bad thing, but we've seen it over and over again. With
Aperture-Photos, Final Cut Pro-Final Cut Pro X and now with Lightroom.

Just the name "Classic" really shows us this, it could have been called Lightroom
Legacy for all intents and purposes.

So the new Lightroom does one thing that the old doesn't do - actual cloud
storage of your entire library. A function that is worth a lot in itself, and I
fully understand that it's hard to patch an old legacy app with this new
functionality. So we have the old "Classic" version with all the bells and
whistle, lacking a foot in the new ways to do things - and we have this new
Lightroom with a foot in the new modern way to do things but lacking a lot of the
bells and whistles.

In the meantime, Apple Photos is a sorry excuse for a Photo manager for anyone
else than the happy vacation photographer, but it has cloud sync.

And on mobile it's even worse, since you can't import to Lightroom on mobile, nor
can you pick from Lightroom albums when posting in other apps. So you're always
stuck in between worlds.

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Sandman

In article sandman-b7127c401c6204bab5855c9ff8a61e41
@individual.net, says...
actual cloud
storage of your entire library. A function that is worth a lot in itself

I've never understood this cloud storage thing. What's
the problem with carrying along an external hard drive
or SSD and instantly access/process the files without
having to wait minutes to download multi-MB files over a
slow connection? Even a small memory stick can do the
job.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
https://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

Alfred Molon:
I've never understood this cloud storage thing. What's
the problem with carrying along an external hard drive
or SSD and instantly access/process the files without
having to wait minutes to download multi-MB files over a
slow connection? Even a small memory stick can do the
job.

If you were running Lightroom on your iPad Pro, or if you are planning
to run Photoshop on iPad Pro later this year (after iPadOS is released)
you would understand. Convenience. As for speed, I use my iPhone as a
WiFi hotspot for my iPad. Most of the time I'm moving and manipulating
Smart Previews, and the speed is close enough to instantaneous as
doesn't matter.

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you will say in your entire life.

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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

I've never understood this cloud storage thing. What's
the problem with carrying along an external hard drive
or SSD and instantly access/process the files without
having to wait minutes to download multi-MB files over a
slow connection? Even a small memory stick can do the
job.

a small memory stick won't hold the amount of data people have and is
easily lost, plus connections aren't slow either.

there's no need to carry anything or needing to copy files to and from
a drive while keeping everything in sync on all devices, not to mention
that not everything supports an external drive, or not well.

On 7/10/2019 1:02 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article sandman-b7127c401c6204bab5855c9ff8a61e41
@individual.net, says...
actual cloud
storage of your entire library. A function that is worth a lot in itself

I've never understood this cloud storage thing. What's
the problem with carrying along an external hard drive
or SSD and instantly access/process the files without
having to wait minutes to download multi-MB files over a
slow connection? Even a small memory stick can do the
job.

The idea behind cloud storage is that your files can be synced with and
accessed by multiple devices. Also, it adds productivity to an
environment where multiple people are working collaboratively on a
project. There are other benefits, if used wisely.

However, I see few (if any) good reasons to put all of one's files on a
cloud server.

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best regards,

Neil

In article , Neil
wrote:

However, I see few (if any) good reasons to put all of one's files on a
cloud server.

redundancy.

On Jul 10, 2019, nospam wrote
(in ) :

In . com, Alfred
Molon wrote:

I've never understood this cloud storage thing. What's
the problem with carrying along an external hard drive
or SSD and instantly access/process the files without
having to wait minutes to download multi-MB files over a
slow connection? Even a small memory stick can do the
job.

a small memory stick won't hold the amount of data people have and is
easily lost, plus connections aren't slow either.

there's no need to carry anything or needing to copy files to and from
a drive while keeping everything in sync on all devices, not to mention
that not everything supports an external drive, or not well.

Personally I am a user of Adobe Creative Cloud, and all it has to offer
between desktop, and mobile devices. That said there are times that it is
good to have a redundant outboard storage backup. These days for me that is a
SanDisk Extreme Portable SSD.

https://www.sandisk.com/home/ssd/extreme-portable-ssd

--
Regards,
Savageduck

In article .com,
Savageduck wrote:

I've never understood this cloud storage thing. What's
the problem with carrying along an external hard drive
or SSD and instantly access/process the files without
having to wait minutes to download multi-MB files over a
slow connection? Even a small memory stick can do the
job.

a small memory stick won't hold the amount of data people have and is
easily lost, plus connections aren't slow either.

there's no need to carry anything or needing to copy files to and from
a drive while keeping everything in sync on all devices, not to mention
that not everything supports an external drive, or not well.

Personally I am a user of Adobe Creative Cloud, and all it has to offer
between desktop, and mobile devices. That said there are times that it is
good to have a redundant outboard storage backup. These days for me that is a
SanDisk Extreme Portable SSD.

it's never a good idea to have only one copy, no matter where it is,
something the cloud haters do not understand.

In article ,
says...

The idea behind cloud storage is that your files can be synced with and
accessed by multiple devices. Also, it adds productivity to an
environment where multiple people are working collaboratively on a
project. There are other benefits, if used wisely.

In photography you are dealing with large files with
sizes ( 10MB), which take long to download unless the
connection is very fast. And in most cases it's not
multiple people working on a bunch of photos. Usually
it's a photographer processing hundreds of images with a
total size of several GB.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at
https://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

In article , Alfred Molon
wrote:

The idea behind cloud storage is that your files can be synced with and
accessed by multiple devices. Also, it adds productivity to an
environment where multiple people are working collaboratively on a
project. There are other benefits, if used wisely.

In photography you are dealing with large files with
sizes ( 10MB), which take long to download unless the
connection is very fast.

broadband and lte speeds are normally quite fast, with even faster 5g
coming soon.

And in most cases it's not
multiple people working on a bunch of photos.

however, it's often multiple people viewing them.

Usually
it's a photographer processing hundreds of images with a
total size of several GB.

photos are processed locally, later synced to the cloud in the
background.