Photo file rename by to date and time taken

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:42:32 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Your scenario might be a bit overwrought, and I definitely am a fan of
the forward march of technology, but I still agree with you. There are
a lot of very cruel posters here who look down on us Luddites who are
so careful that they believe in a bit of redundancy, but I do not care
for black boxes, and if I didn't write the software, in this case the
asset manager, it's a black box. I just went through a long couple of
weeks going through old computer files, many of which I could not open
without a lot of research.

then you have to stick with plain text and jpeg files.

that's *really* limiting and a *huge* price to pay for something that
might never occur.

It has already occurred to me.

I have a large number of Photopaint files which I can no longer open
in Windows.

I have a smaller number Paintshop Pro files which will be inaccessible
in the forseeable future.

I keep finished print' files as high quality jpg files. For all the
rest I rely on raw files as the basic backstop.

nothing else reads those files? no way to export to a common format?

Unfortunately the way the various apps (particularly PS) handles layer
data is different from Paintshop Pro.

do those apps work anymore? if not, you could run them in vm running
an older version of windows.

I'm going to have to do that. I'm going to resuscitate an older
computer.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:16:16 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 7/30/2015 8:30 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:08:39 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Probably longer for me. I used to be able to decently do basics in Unix
caommand lkine. The operating principle is not all that much different
with DOS command lines. Both are fairly simple and quick. But I have
forgotten the syntax for conditional execution of cammands.

...and you would really have to be careful with regard to those typos
you are vulnerable to these days.

no ****. one minor typo and you could be looking at a complete
reinstall.

Bull****

it's definitely not bull****.

Renaming a bunch of image files can lead to needing a complete
reinstall? I still say Bull****. I suppose now you are going to
redifine what you mean by a complete reinstall.


If I use a command such as DEL *.*, there would be some issues. But that
would not by any rational definition, be a "minor typo."

Nor would Windows let you wipe the system with just a single command.
However I remember you could construct a single recursive command in
Unix that would enable you to do that.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:42:31 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Probably longer for me. I used to be able to decently do basics in
Unix
caommand lkine. The operating principle is not all that much
different
with DOS command lines. Both are fairly simple and quick. But I have
forgotten the syntax for conditional execution of cammands.

...and you would really have to be careful with regard to those typos
you are vulnerable to these days.

no ****. one minor typo and you could be looking at a complete
reinstall.

Bull****

it's definitely not bull****.

Renaming a bunch of image files can lead to needing a complete
reinstall? I still say Bull****. I suppose now you are going to
redifine what you mean by a complete reinstall.

i said one minor typo could mean a reinstall, and it can.

the initial paragraph mentions 'the basics in unix caommand kline', not
specifically about renaming image files or any other type of file. it's
about the command line.

one of these is going to *really* ruin your day:
sudo rm -rf /path/to/some/folder
sudo rm -rf / path/to/some/folder

as for renaming image files, one of these will ruin your day too but
not quite as much:
rm *.jpg
rm * .jpg

there are *many* other examples where you can easily **** yourself
over, requiring a reinstall. usually it's a lot less severe.

Gee! Photoshop or Lightroomfor Unix.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:07:19 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 7/30/2015 7:01 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:56:02 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 7/30/2015 3:13 PM, nospam wrote:
In article 2015073011414326671-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

This requires pretty good skills with string manipulation in the command
line. Not common these days. (It would take me an hour to get there
again - been too long).

Probably longer for me. I used to be able to decently do basics in Unix
caommand lkine. The operating principle is not all that much different
with DOS command lines. Both are fairly simple and quick. But I have
forgotten the syntax for conditional execution of cammands.

...and you would really have to be careful with regard to those typos
you are vulnerable to these days.

no ****. one minor typo and you could be looking at a complete
reinstall.


Gee dad, it's a Wurlitzer!

It's funny you'd say that. I have an Arturia Wurly V software synth,
and I've had nothing but problems with it. At least 3 reinstalls so
far. It's those damn arrogant French software companies. Them, and
DXO.


My proposal for my thesis in computer science was based upon a different
method of converting musical notations to sound and converting digital
sound to written notes, that would incorporate undertones, overtones,
accents, and attentuation.

Was this before MIDI?

It included an analysis of the major issues
with the current sustem. My proposal was approved, but for personal
reasons I decided not to pursue a masters degree.

Pretty much any idea with music has been converted to software reality
by now. You missed out.

The expression was originally a widely copied advertising slogan. In my
narrow area of NYC it became a polite and sarcastic way of telling
someone they were FOS.

I knew it sounded familiar, but I couldn't remember any context for
it.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:16:16 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

If I use a command such as DEL *.*, there would be some issues. But that
would not by any rational definition, be a "minor typo."

Accidentally renaming system files, or any critical files, could
result from a minor typo. I've made plenty of catastrophic errors with
computers, but I was lucky enough to always be able to fix them. It
was an obsession to never have to do a reinstall with Windows.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:42:33 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Bill W
wrote:

Your scenario might be a bit overwrought, and I definitely am a fan of
the forward march of technology, but I still agree with you. There are
a lot of very cruel posters here who look down on us Luddites who are
so careful that they believe in a bit of redundancy, but I do not care
for black boxes, and if I didn't write the software, in this case the
asset manager, it's a black box. I just went through a long couple of
weeks going through old computer files, many of which I could not open
without a lot of research.

then you have to stick with plain text and jpeg files.

No, not stick with, but if one wants to be really careful, text files
along with Word, or whatever.

which is very limiting.

that's *really* limiting and a *huge* price to pay for something that
might never occur.

It's not limiting if it's redundant, but yes, there is a price to pay,
but not huge. I sometimes type a document into a basic text editor,
and then paste that into Word, email, a web page, etc. In this case,
it's not to protect the original document, but I do end up with a copy
I can open with anything.

in that case, you're not really using all of the features of word.

try writing a long document with formatting, embedded images,
hyperlinks, etc. you can't do that in a plain text editor.

photoshop is 25 years old with no sign of it going away any time soon.
lightroom is 10 years old with no sign of it going away either.

I remember an investment class many years ago where the instructor
made a similar remark about IBM. "Can you even imagine IBM
disappearing?" It was only a few years later that they almost did. But
to be clear, I don't expect LR or PS to go away in my lifetime. I just
happen to think that paranoia is healthy.

a very different situation in a very different era.

I completely agree with all of your claims on this subject, but I also
completely agree with everyone who is disagreeing with you.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

do those apps work anymore? if not, you could run them in vm running
an older version of windows.

I'm going to have to do that. I'm going to resuscitate an older
computer.

just run it in a vm.

In article , Bill W
wrote:

I completely agree with all of your claims on this subject, but I also
completely agree with everyone who is disagreeing with you.

that makes no sense

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Gee! Photoshop or Lightroomfor Unix.

photoshop did once have a unix version.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:45:52 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Bill W
wrote:

I completely agree with all of your claims on this subject, but I also
completely agree with everyone who is disagreeing with you.

that makes no sense

You are indisputably correct in a high pressure environment where
every wasted minute can have serious consequences. On the other hand,
someone who takes a group of photos every 3 years is not going to
benefit much from learning asset manager software, and if you don't
learn how to use it, that then becomes a waste of time when you fumble
around trying to find your photos. It takes me about 2 seconds to
rename a batch of photos, but it would take anyone days to learn how
to correctly use asset manager software to its full capabilities. One
size rarely fits all.