Help with LR!

I'm experimenting with the adjustment brush in the current version of
LR CC 5. Everything is going according to plan I brush the area I want
too affect. Then I increase the contrast. Immediately everything
*outside* the brushed area gets an increase in contrast when I want
the brushed area to get the increase. It's as though the effect of the
brush has been inverted, although everything I have read says this is
impossible in LR. I would be grateful for help or an explanation.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2014-10-26 04:07:50 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

I'm experimenting with the adjustment brush in the current version of
LR CC 5. Everything is going according to plan I brush the area I want
too affect. Then I increase the contrast. Immediately everything
*outside* the brushed area gets an increase in contrast when I want
the brushed area to get the increase. It's as though the effect of the
brush has been inverted, although everything I have read says this is
impossible in LR. I would be grateful for help or an explanation.

What you have described doesn't make sense for the Adjustment brush. I
just checked incase I missed something, and the Adjustment brush
functions as expected for me. One thing to remember any Adjustment
brush adjustments are usually made on top of the Basic adjustments.

Usually, but not always, I check the "Show Selected Mask Overlay" box
(just below the image window) before making adjustments. That way the
area I want to adjust is masked and shows in red. I then uncheck the
box, the red is turned off and make the adjustments. You shouldn't see
any adjustments outside the masked area.

Are you sure you selected the Adjustment brush and not the Radial
filter which is right next to it. That has a check box for inverting
the mask and would behave in the way you describe.

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Regards,

Savageduck

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:35:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-10-26 04:07:50 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

I'm experimenting with the adjustment brush in the current version of
LR CC 5. Everything is going according to plan I brush the area I want
too affect. Then I increase the contrast. Immediately everything
*outside* the brushed area gets an increase in contrast when I want
the brushed area to get the increase. It's as though the effect of the
brush has been inverted, although everything I have read says this is
impossible in LR. I would be grateful for help or an explanation.

What you have described doesn't make sense for the Adjustment brush.

I agree.

I just checked incase I missed something, and the Adjustment brush
functions as expected for me.

Have you received and installed a PS CC update in the last 24 hours,
or there abouts? I have and it has occurred to me that this just might
be a factor.

One thing to remember any Adjustment
brush adjustments are usually made on top of the Basic adjustments.

That occurred to me that it might be the problem but I have made a
number of basic adjustments and then applied the adjustment brush, and
it still affects the image outside the brush area.

Usually, but not always, I check the "Show Selected Mask Overlay" box
(just below the image window) before making adjustments. That way the
area I want to adjust is masked and shows in red. I then uncheck the
box, the red is turned off and make the adjustments. You shouldn't see
any adjustments outside the masked area.

I don't.

Are you sure you selected the Adjustment brush and not the Radial
filter which is right next to it. That has a check box for inverting
the mask and would behave in the way you describe.

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

Mutter mutter mutter ....
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2014-10-26 08:22:27 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:35:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-10-26 04:07:50 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

I'm experimenting with the adjustment brush in the current version of
LR CC 5. Everything is going according to plan I brush the area I want
too affect. Then I increase the contrast. Immediately everything
*outside* the brushed area gets an increase in contrast when I want
the brushed area to get the increase. It's as though the effect of the
brush has been inverted, although everything I have read says this is
impossible in LR. I would be grateful for help or an explanation.

What you have described doesn't make sense for the Adjustment brush.

I agree.

I just checked incase I missed something, and the Adjustment brush
functions as expected for me.

Have you received and installed a PS CC update in the last 24 hours,
or there abouts? I have and it has occurred to me that this just might
be a factor.

Yes, (PS CC (2014)) but that has nothing to do with LR5.

One thing to remember any Adjustment
brush adjustments are usually made on top of the Basic adjustments.

That occurred to me that it might be the problem but I have made a
number of basic adjustments and then applied the adjustment brush, and
it still affects the image outside the brush area.

Usually, but not always, I check the "Show Selected Mask Overlay" box
(just below the image window) before making adjustments. That way the
area I want to adjust is masked and shows in red. I then uncheck the
box, the red is turned off and make the adjustments. You shouldn't see
any adjustments outside the masked area.

I don't.

Are you sure you selected the Adjustment brush and not the Radial
filter which is right next to it. That has a check box for inverting
the mask and would behave in the way you describe.

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

Mutter mutter mutter ....

Hmmm...


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014.10.26, 04:22 , Eric Stevens wrote:

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

I was about to write: make sure the Inverse (under Select) is not set
(I'm referring to Photoshop - I don't have LR). That said, take,
perhaps another look:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html

Says: " You can adjust the portion outside the ellipse by ensuring that
the Invert Mask checkbox is unchecked. By checking the Invert Mask
checkbox, you can make adjustments to the inside of the ellipse."


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On 2014-10-26 13:16:49 +0000, Alan Browne
said:

On 2014.10.26, 04:22 , Eric Stevens wrote:

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

I was about to write: make sure the Inverse (under Select) is not set
(I'm referring to Photoshop - I don't have LR). That said, take,
perhaps another look:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html

Says: " You can adjust the portion outside the ellipse by ensuring that
the Invert Mask checkbox is unchecked. By checking the Invert Mask
checkbox, you can make adjustments to the inside of the ellipse."

That applies to the Radial Filter, not the Adjustment brush.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2014.10.26, 10:35 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-10-26 13:16:49 +0000, Alan Browne
said:

On 2014.10.26, 04:22 , Eric Stevens wrote:

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

I was about to write: make sure the Inverse (under Select) is not set
(I'm referring to Photoshop - I don't have LR). That said, take,
perhaps another look:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html

Says: " You can adjust the portion outside the ellipse by ensuring
that the Invert Mask checkbox is unchecked. By checking the Invert
Mask checkbox, you can make adjustments to the inside of the ellipse."

That applies to the Radial Filter, not the Adjustment brush.

I supposed their may be some limitation like that - but never hurts to
propose for someone to look.


--
Among Broad Outlines, conception is far more pleasurable
than “carrying [the children] to fruition.�
Sadly, “there’s a high infant mortality rate among
Broad Outlines—they often fall prey to Nonstarters.�
"Bestiary of Intelligence Writing" - CIA

On 2014-10-26 14:38:36 +0000, Alan Browne
said:

On 2014.10.26, 10:35 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2014-10-26 13:16:49 +0000, Alan Browne
said:

On 2014.10.26, 04:22 , Eric Stevens wrote:

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something

to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

I was about to write: make sure the Inverse (under Select) is not set
(I'm referring to Photoshop - I don't have LR). That said, take,
perhaps another look:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html

Says: " You can adjust the portion outside the ellipse by ensuring
that the Invert Mask checkbox is unchecked. By checking the Invert
Mask checkbox, you can make adjustments to the inside of the ellipse."


That applies to the Radial Filter, not the Adjustment brush.

I supposed their may be some limitation like that - but never hurts to
propose for someone to look.

I checked earlier before I responded to Eric, just incase I had missed
something. I hadn't.

There must be something else going on, and it is probably something
simple, otherwise we would surely (I didn't call you Shirley) have
heard about it by now.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 02:27:05 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-10-26 08:22:27 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 21:35:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-10-26 04:07:50 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

I'm experimenting with the adjustment brush in the current version of
LR CC 5. Everything is going according to plan I brush the area I want
too affect. Then I increase the contrast. Immediately everything
*outside* the brushed area gets an increase in contrast when I want
the brushed area to get the increase. It's as though the effect of the
brush has been inverted, although everything I have read says this is
impossible in LR. I would be grateful for help or an explanation.

What you have described doesn't make sense for the Adjustment brush.

I agree.

I just checked incase I missed something, and the Adjustment brush
functions as expected for me.

Have you received and installed a PS CC update in the last 24 hours,
or there abouts? I have and it has occurred to me that this just might
be a factor.

Yes, (PS CC (2014)) but that has nothing to do with LR5.

They seem to share ACR in some way. Just a thought.

One thing to remember any Adjustment
brush adjustments are usually made on top of the Basic adjustments.

That occurred to me that it might be the problem but I have made a
number of basic adjustments and then applied the adjustment brush, and
it still affects the image outside the brush area.

Usually, but not always, I check the "Show Selected Mask Overlay" box
(just below the image window) before making adjustments. That way the
area I want to adjust is masked and shows in red. I then uncheck the
box, the red is turned off and make the adjustments. You shouldn't see
any adjustments outside the masked area.

I don't.

Are you sure you selected the Adjustment brush and not the Radial
filter which is right next to it. That has a check box for inverting
the mask and would behave in the way you describe.

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

Mutter mutter mutter ....

Hmmm...
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 09:16:49 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2014.10.26, 04:22 , Eric Stevens wrote:

I'm aware of that and it even inspired me to go looking for something
to invert the mask, but - as it is supposed to be - there is no such
adjustment.

I was about to write: make sure the Inverse (under Select) is not set
(I'm referring to Photoshop - I don't have LR). That said, take,
perhaps another look:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html

Says: " You can adjust the portion outside the ellipse by ensuring that
the Invert Mask checkbox is unchecked. By checking the Invert Mask
checkbox, you can make adjustments to the inside of the ellipse."

I was aware of that, and that's what sent me looking for an equivalent
in the brush tool. But the brush doesn't do that, as far as I am
aware.

I shall have to keep digging.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens