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On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:39:51 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: They don't *just* spoof your local area .. I once got a spam call that was spoofed as my own phone number. that's the easiest of all to block with no risk whatsoever. Not if you have an alarm system that calls you... why is the alarm system calling you using your own caller id and not that of the alarm company? and if you're home, why does it need to call you at all? No need for an alarm company - I think they're useless. It calls me by landline & a cellular connection, so cutting every wire going to my house won't foil the alarm system. that doesn't answer the question, which is why it's calling you with spoofed caller id, that being your own number and not theirs, and if it's both landline & cell, then at least one of them should be different. It's not spoofed, and there is no "theirs". It's my alarm, I installed it, and it uses my landline to call my cell phone, and then also uses a cellular connection to call my cell. If the landline is cut, it makes no difference, and there is no way to kill the cellular connection, except with a jammer, which is not something the typical burglar has. I have cameras inside, so I can look around the place, and then call the police if someone is actually in here, which has never happened. *Everything* has battery backups, and if someone cuts my power, I know within about 15 seconds. I spent a lot of time on this... And I'm not even in a high crime area. |
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In article , Bill W
wrote: They don't *just* spoof your local area .. I once got a spam call that was spoofed as my own phone number. that's the easiest of all to block with no risk whatsoever. Not if you have an alarm system that calls you... why is the alarm system calling you using your own caller id and not that of the alarm company? and if you're home, why does it need to call you at all? No need for an alarm company - I think they're useless. It calls me by landline & a cellular connection, so cutting every wire going to my house won't foil the alarm system. that doesn't answer the question, which is why it's calling you with spoofed caller id, that being your own number and not theirs, and if it's both landline & cell, then at least one of them should be different. It's not spoofed, and there is no "theirs". It's my alarm, I installed it, and it uses my landline to call my cell phone, and then also uses a cellular connection to call my cell. If the landline is cut, it makes no difference, and there is no way to kill the cellular connection, except with a jammer, which is not something the typical burglar has. if the alarm is using your home phone (or cellular backup) to call your cellphone, that's completely valid. your home number is different than your cellphone number. it's the same as if a family member called you. the problem is when the number of the phone you're answering shows its own number on clid. that can't happen. a phone cannot call itself and ring. it either rolls to voicemail or is busy (a sound that's almost extinct. example 1: your home number is 212-555-9876 and clid shows 212-555-9876. that's invalid. it's a spammer. example 2: your cell number is 808-555-4321 and clid shows 212-555-9876. home calling cell. no issues. it could be the alarm or it could be you need to get a pizza on the way home. |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:35:47 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: They don't *just* spoof your local area .. I once got a spam call that was spoofed as my own phone number. that's the easiest of all to block with no risk whatsoever. Not if you have an alarm system that calls you... why is the alarm system calling you using your own caller id and not that of the alarm company? and if you're home, why does it need to call you at all? No need for an alarm company - I think they're useless. It calls me by landline & a cellular connection, so cutting every wire going to my house won't foil the alarm system. that doesn't answer the question, which is why it's calling you with spoofed caller id, that being your own number and not theirs, and if it's both landline & cell, then at least one of them should be different. It's not spoofed, and there is no "theirs". It's my alarm, I installed it, and it uses my landline to call my cell phone, and then also uses a cellular connection to call my cell. If the landline is cut, it makes no difference, and there is no way to kill the cellular connection, except with a jammer, which is not something the typical burglar has. if the alarm is using your home phone (or cellular backup) to call your cellphone, that's completely valid. your home number is different than your cellphone number. it's the same as if a family member called you. the problem is when the number of the phone you're answering shows its own number on clid. that can't happen. a phone cannot call itself and ring. it either rolls to voicemail or is busy (a sound that's almost extinct. example 1: your home number is 212-555-9876 and clid shows 212-555-9876. that's invalid. it's a spammer. Exactly. In fact, I think that has happened to me. Since it was to the same number, it was clearly spoofed. It actually surprised me, but I don't think anything should surprise anyone these days. example 2: your cell number is 808-555-4321 and clid shows 212-555-9876. home calling cell. no issues. it could be the alarm or it could be you need to get a pizza on the way home. |
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In article , Bill W
wrote: the problem is when the number of the phone you're answering shows its own number on clid. that can't happen. a phone cannot call itself and ring. it either rolls to voicemail or is busy (a sound that's almost extinct. example 1: your home number is 212-555-9876 and clid shows 212-555-9876. that's invalid. it's a spammer. Exactly. In fact, I think that has happened to me. Since it was to the same number, it was clearly spoofed. that's what i've been saying all along. It actually surprised me, but I don't think anything should surprise anyone these days. yep, and it's only going to get worse. |
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Per Ron C:
A new twist .. I got a call and the ID started with "SPAM?" Wondering if Verizon is starting to tag some of these spam/robo calls. Would be nice if true. I would hope that there is an issue emerging for Verizon where they are losing customers to services like CallCentric.com. -- Pete Cresswell |
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In article ,
(PeteCresswell) wrote: I would hope that there is an issue emerging for Verizon where they are losing customers to services like CallCentric.com. not enough to matter. |
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