In article , nospam wrote:

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Sandman:
When it comes to opera singers, there *is* a "born
with it" factor to it, since your physical body plays a part
in how well you can perform what you do. It's not "talent",
but your voice capacity is important, like how "born with it"
length is important to a basketball player. Also, I'm not
really all that interested in opera singers, so it's hard to
come up with a list of comparable people for me.

nospam:
in other words, it's not just practice, but being born with it.

Sandman:
But not "talent". Being tall doesn't mean you have "talent" for
basket ball. It means you have an (unfair) physical advantage.

correct.

talent and practice are separate things, and entirely separate of
having a physical advantage.

Also, talent doesn't exist, so with an unfair physical advantage and lots of
practice, you can become a great basketball player. With a physical advantage and
no practice, you're a tall guy in the middle of the ball court and that's it.

No "talent" required.

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Sandman