On 7/25/15 11:52 AM, in article ,
"Tony Cooper" wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:59:36 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Ken Hart
wrote:

SLR with mechanical shutter speed and aperature controls, along with
ASA setting (ISO I believe is a newer term.) Match needle metering
with option to switch from full screen or spot.

you could have any camera at all and you'd choose one with 50 year old
technology???

Of course.

what on earth for?

do you choose manual typewriters over computers?

Because it still works.

so do modern cameras.

there is *nothing* that a 50 year old relic can do that a modern camera
cannot do better, more accurately and more reliably and with *much*
better results.

not only that, but this thread is about having any kind of camera, one
which would obviously work. why would someone's dream camera be a
camera that is broken?


You have never understood that other people have interests different
from your own, and that their interests may be more important to them
than yours.

While the photograph is the end result, and modern cameras can make
that end result better, more simple to achieve, and less time
consuming to finalize, the "hunt" is more satisfying to some than the
head mounted on the wall.

It was more of a challenge to get the right results with the cameras
we used to use. Meeting that challenge can be the objective of the
photographer.

There was a satisfaction to doing everything right when using the
older cameras that is not really present with today's cameras. The
camera is doing so much of the work that the photographer can only
claim to have seen what to point it at and when to push the button
That's not enough for everyone.

While you deprecate the Luddites who like to try their skill the old
way, your obsessive worship of the modern "let the camera do the work"
is distasteful to some.


Tony, I could not have put it better.

To nospam, NOTHING is better than what is the next around the corner
wiz-bang gadget. That is typical of the know-it-all mentallity who wants to
be the first adaptor, followed by declaring that their way is the only
logical way to do things.

Some of us actually like backlit composition, zone metering, "pushing" film
speeds, and, the 'horrors' of an actulal wet darkroom experience of seeing
their image materilize from a plain white paper, lit only by the amber
light.

That is what pros did as recent as ten or so years ago. Now, when you get
all fool-proof cameras that accoplish what the brain would be charged with
doing in the past, the "1000 monkeys at a 1000 typewriters" effect comes to
play. Nospam is probably too young to know of what I am referring, tho.

Today, we have masses who use their phone for cameras and expect nothing
could be possibly wrong with learning just how to orient the framing of what
they are shooting. That is what goes for photography these days.

I found it interesting in a book that I just finished today. Ron Wiggins
"Florida Authentica". One of the 52 interesting adventures mentioned
concerning your state is Cypress Gardens at Winteraven. You may have
visited, since you are close. But, what caught my eye is that the owner, in
trying to keep people interested, kept professional photographers on the
grounds to help otherwise awful tourist pictures from ruining the beauty of
the place, with their help and suggestions, because he wanted them taking
home nothing but magnificent photographs. These photographs, he believed,
were the best form of advertising that he could ever have. He even LOANED
cameras so the tourists could produce better pictures. And, for decades,
Cypress Gardens was the WORLD'S largest retailer of Kodak film.

My .02...