-hh
Fri, 26
May 2017 01:19:43 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote:

Which merely means that I got some of my old IT history a bit
blended, by using the original name instead of the more recent
(and PC based) one.

It's not a 'more recent' name unless you think 1980 is recent...
and, it wasn't originated on PCs, either...Especially considering
that the first PC didn't arrive until 1981...The file format
originates on UNIX based systems, and, they weren't PCs in the IBM
compatible sense of the word...

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/ta...l/ch05s01.html

Case Study: .newsrc Format

Almost all Usenet news readers understand the .newsrc file, which
records which Usenet messages have been seen by the calling user.
Though it is named like a run-control file, it is not only read at
startup but typically updated at the end of the newsreader run. The
..newsrc format has been fixed since the first newsreaders around
1980.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_compatible


I'm not a regular of your newsgroup, so it's not dead to me, or
anyone else who comes across it for the first time, either. As I
wrote previously, this is usenet, not a chatroom.

And all posts have dates on them. Given that this is still a
reasonably active group, you had to deliberately go past the
active threads to go find the old ones. Given that your post
targeted me, it was motivationally nothing more than a troll
attempt. Quite lame & childishly petty.

You must have forgotten (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt
here) how real usenet clients work, then. Until I mark a thread with
all posts as 'read', my client considers it active...If another post
is created in that thread, my client informs me; and, if a reply in
that thread is directed to me, it lets me know that too.

I don't have to go searching for replies, or threads that still
contain unread posts; it clearly shows them to me. I can see the
date of the threads initial creation, but, until I open the thread
and see the posts, I can't see individual dates with this client.
Oh, and it's not using my login (as GG does) to determine which
posts are for me. That's actually taken care of in the lefthand side
of the MID in my header..The right hand side is an FQDN that's generated
on the fly by another program I wrote that interfaces directly with Xnews. It's
one of several anti stalker methods I employ.

Because you use GG to post, it's very easy to 'track' your online
usenet activities. In fact, a single url bookmarked can keep anyone
interested not only uptodate on your posts, but see what other posts
you've written in any newsgroup GG allows access, as well. The same
cannot be said of mine. Go ahead, try the same feature on me, if
you'd like. Checkout what it thinks are posts from me, that will
turn out being posts from other people. GG can be 'fooled' easily
because of what's in my headers, that, you have no control over in
yours- Because you choose not to use a real client.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!pr...KpIXMFwNFQi8Im

And mine:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ac...l/URZ6rz_ZAwAJ

Just click the calendar dates to see for yourself what I'm writing
about here. You'll find that with yours, google shows me YOUR posts
all the way back to 2005 in this newsgroup.

And if I click one of the numbers for that month, it shows me YOUR
posts.

Since your email address is 'fixed' and unique to you, it's even easier to do it this way:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/huntzinger.com

Interestingly enough, You have quite a history on usenet yourself.
Hard to determine without some additional reading (and, I assure
you, I will) which of us has the worst reputation and in what ways.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...s/HbhSUxjTTZcJ

but when you use the url for me, it loses track of me, real quick.
That's another thing a real client can do for it's user, that GG
doesn't do for you. granted, I'm using my client, with custom
settings as well as another program that I wrote to do it,
but, it's doing it, quite nicely.

I didn't deliberately go past anything. I've been 'catching up'
since I arrived. As it's usenet, there's no such thing as a 'dead'
thread unless various servers carrying copies of it delete their
local copies due to it exceeding their retention time. I'm sure
there's all kinds of threads on this newsgroup that I can't view
with the particular server I'm presently using. However, This
particular client doesn't limit me to one usenet server. I can use
as many as I like, and it keeps all activities between them entirely
seperate. Another thing you can't do with GG...

GG doesn't support binary newsgroups all that well either, but, my
client has no issue with them. There's actually several types of
newsgroups GG doesn't deal with, most of the binary friendly groups
being one example.

The majority of 'real' usenet servers no longer support XNA, but, GG
still does. If I want, I can make this post (or any other I write)
self delete from GG within six days time. And, you have no control
over the self deletion.

If you miss the post, you'll have to use a real usenet access point
and client to see it, or, hope someone quotes it in a reply and
provides the MID as they do so; so you can bring it up with
something other than GG. As after six days, GG will just state the
post has been deleted and as far as GG is concerned, that's that.

So GG doesn't even keep some posts intact and in posting order, if
the authors used XNA.

Some servers still support the Expires line in
your header too; It was most useful for Announcements of upcoming events, etc that
would become outdated within a specified period of time. The poster
could set this flag in their headers, and, the servers would respect
it: example...Expires: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:01:26 GMT

Using GG you can't really customize many/any aspects of your own
header, whereas, using a Usenet client as I do, I can. I don't
recall if GG even supports X-face...If it does, you'll see a cat
with it's paw up around it's ear. If not, you shouldn't notice
anything different about this post since the cat encoded picture is
in the header area, not the message body.

As in the blue boxes that Steve Jobs built & sold before Apple,
which enabled thefts of services from Bell Telephone. But
that's just its original history.

Sorry if I don't feel bad about taking ma bell for a ride on
occasion.

Oh, your lack of morals is already quite obvious.

I don't think we need to concern ourselves with my morals in
particular. You recently bragged about unblurring someones street
address to provide a known stalker, details. They already had the
same details as you provided, but, that's besides the point. You
took it upon yourself to do that. As you're okay with violating
anothers privacy, you're in no position to question my morals.

The last time I viewed the unblurred version (I can't seem to find
the pic I saved of it, perhaps David would be so kind as to share
his?), the truck looked silver or possibly grey to me, Most
certainly not tan. Do you have problems differentiating color?

Oh, look: its another lame "L33t" attempt.

Sorry kid, but AFAIC, they're all just tools in the toolbox,
and I don't subscribe to the irrational fanboy crap. So
I use different ones at different times, including Linux.

I'm impressed with the maturity level you display. Especially with
your derogatory 'kid' remarks. I find it highly amusing that you try
and label me as a troll of some kind, yet, act like one yourself
towards me, when I've responded to you in a civil manner.

I too use Linux. I've been using UNIX (No, not Linux) based systems
in one way shape or form since before I was a teenager though. Most
of the computers on this network are Linux. I'm well versed with OS9
(yes, it was a real OS, way back in the day; one of the first that
could actually multitask on a home computer that was NOT a PC or
Mac)

Novell, OS2warp, DOS, and Windows/Windows NT (No, they are not one
in the same)...I also have some mac knowledge, but, I've never had a
fondness for Macs so...

I like to know how the tools in my toolboxes actually work, though.
it's not enough for me that they do, I must know how and why.

In so far as warning people like yourself, which seem to be a bit
gullible concerning David Brooks and his need to stalk people who
refuse to do his bidding, yes. I can lead you to water, but, I
can't really force you to drink it.

Except that you're the one who has made poorly based assumptions
on gullibility and who needs your supposed "help".

I've made no poor assumptions concerning you that I know of, so far.
However, You've made several inaccurate assumptions concerning me.
I'm not a wannabe, or newbie, or kid for that matter. And I didn't
try to bluff anyone concerning my 'techie' knowledge. Besides, as
David himself can tell you, I'm not one for bluffing. I see no point
in it. I want you to know what I'll do, so when I do it, you can't
say 'But, I didn't know'; bull****, I told you beforehand.

David Brooks has since posted various urls describing some of the
'techie' things I've been responsible for. Fact is, you were quick
to jump to conclusions concerning what you thought I knew. I'm not
an average joe concerning IT, by any stretch of the
imagination.

http://picpaste.com/HlZsFJlY.jpg

I'm sure if you're really the IT god you profess yourself to be,
you've heard of Malwarebytes. See the version? They recruited me to
work for them, I didn't apply for the job. Didn't even know there
was a job to be had, until I got that email one day, out of the
blue.

I credit the program on the following site (and the years I spent
developing it as well as disecting live 0day executables with IDA
pro and ollydbg) for that.

http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/

On that page, Completelyfreesoftware.com reviewed my program and
awarded me the highest award they have. The program as well as the
award is several years old now, but, when it was 'new' they
summarized it with this:

BugHunter is a "must have" for all PC users.

Grab a copy now!

You can click the animated gif on the above domain and it'll take
you to the full review, if you'd like to do so.

Prior to that (years prior), I submitted many of the programs he
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/core/

To Zdnet (when they accepted programs intended to be reviewed and
published on shareware cdroms for BBS operators) and routinely
scored four out of five possible stars. My documentation was the
culprit preventing me from getting the final star. As, I'm a coder
first, doc writer, second. I'm actually well known as a coder, and,
I've been a coder since before I was a teenager...And a
SysOp/CoSysOp well into my teenage years. In fact, if you're at all
familiar with the BBS documentaries DVD videos, some of those boards
are ones I was either a SysOp on or Co-SysOp.

I have a long and well known 'history' in the IT world. You just
didn't know anything about it, because I don't post under my real
name or the handle(s) that are also well known. They didn't publish
an article about me in Rolling Stone magazine for my musical
skills...But, they did publish an article that discusses me as well
as several other 'infamous' virus writers concerning my virus
writing period.

http://vxheaven.org/lib/p0021.html
A member of the VX group Slam and one of the loudest, most
unrepentant coders on the Net, RAiD is the kind of virus writer who
makes antivirus workers - and often other virus writers - gnash
their teeth in frustation. He's the guy who pops into the mind of PC
users as they nervously scan their disks with AV software. Not only
does he write viruses with malicious payloads, he also takes a
fairly obvious measure of delight in watching them spread.

I still get a kick out of the mental image the paragraph above
conveys, despite the fact I retired from such activities, seventeen
years ago. I can't even count how many systems/networks of various
kinds my 'work' from that scene has succesfully penetrated. I think
the most remarkable was Toyota Corporation (the car company);

That was unintentional on my part. I didn't specifically target
them. That's the thing with an actual computer virus vs some lame
ass trojan so commonly found these days though. If they're decent
enough they'll make wildlist and go places I never even thought
about them going. The ones that can't make wildlist aren't worth a
****. It means they couldn't spread well. Mine had no problems doing
what they were wrote to do. And, evading AV was childsplay for me.
Actually, it still is.

I didn't send the crazy bitch any email with ANY of my work, either.
I wouldn't have done that, as the work wasn't known to AV and hadn't
been released yet. No ****ing way would I compromise my own project
and give her a copy, which she would have turned over to the major
AV players. My virus wouldn't have had a chance had I done something
so stupid.

That was bull**** on her part, and the cut/paste usenet articles was
her way of trying to pay me back for disabling the ISP she was using
at the time. I nuked her machine first, but, she came back within a
few minutes, running that mouth off towards me.

So...I figured out her ISP was vulnerable to OOB nuking, and, I hit
the DNS server with one. Bye bye reporter. Happy trails. Redial all
you like, you aren't surfing to any sites or visiting any irc servers
if you don't know the IP address to the corresponding domain. She
was far too stupid to try and use another DNS server, and, depending
on her dialup configuration options, may not have been able to
choose one of her own, anyhow.

Several people in the scene emailed her, asking for a copy of this
supposed email she wrote about, with complete headers. and a copy of
the supposed file attachment. She didn't provide either, to ANYBODY.
The email didn't exist, and, she had no such file either. She got
the name from a discussion that was already taking place when she
entered the channel. She's a slimeball reporter, for damn sure.

I even reached out to RS and questioned the fact checking they
performed before they published it in the PRINT magazine (not
online, but one you could hold in your hands! Sold on news stands,
and various other retail outlets); they couldn't provide me a copy
of the supposed email or a copy of the file attachment; claiming she
had the only 'copy'; Sure she did. And I'm a white knight.

Have you ever written code professionally and maintained your own
antimalware scanner/removal tool? To later be recruited by yet
another larger company doing the same thing?

I have. So, do be careful with the 'newbie' paintbrush you
previously tried using with me. You missed the mark, by several
miles.

Yet you're still very much acting like one ... so I'll just say
instead that you're a PSL ... short for "Painfully Slow Learner"

You're making yet another unfounded assumption when the facts won't
support it. You seem to have a bit of a track record in so far as
I'm concerned doing that.

And I mean "newbie" in the USENET sense, not merely RPD.

Says the one who thinks google groups is intended for usenet and
makes for a great method of accessing usenet...

Nice straw man you tried to build there - - too bad its already
been proven wrong.

Do you need to lookup the definition to strawman? I've been active
on usenet since the days of UUCP. So, I'm nowhere near what you'd
call a 'newbie' with it. And, you do seem to think that google
groups is the best way, compared to a real client, to access usenet.
I can't think of many other techies who'd agree with that assesment.
Nor can I think of many usenet oldtimers who would agree with it,
either... You seem to be a notable exception.

In fact, I know several people who've been on usenet for years and
automatically filter posts coming from GG.. mostly due to spammers,
but, also due to IT stupid persons using it and not properly
quoting/formatting their replies as a result of doing so.


What did you use prior to GG? Dejanews?

Oh, look: it is another complaint from Dustin about his
personal lack of a PC with any computational power. Have you
perhaps thought buying a new one from *this* decade?

Your trolling skills need work, Hugh. You should learn how to
read in context. I was citing an example, I didn't say I had any
machines that old here.

Didn't really read that way to me, nor when you complained about
I-81 traffic.

You seem to lack proper usenet etiquette as well as make comments
that aren't supported about a poster (me) you know little to nothing
about. I don't use my real name these days, I use a handle. It's
proper etiquette to address one by their posting nym. I chose to
respond to you in the same manner as you did with me, to make a
subtle point. In case it escaped you.

As far as it not reading that way to you, you might need to take a
refresher course in reading comprehension...

As this is what I wrote:
Well, not exactly. It requires a browser capable of rendering it. You
wouldn't be doing this on older OSes (say Win3x) well, if at all due
the sheer amount of cpu hungry client side scripting google uses...

I don't see how you'd reach the conclusion that I run Windows 3.x,
or have hardware still in service that old based on what I wrote.
It's another poor assumption on your part. You seem to be good for
those.

My slowest box that's still used on the network is this one. It's a
dual cpu p3, running in SMP mode with mated processors on a server
class (not desktop) mainboard. My 'fastest' box is a lowly (rofl)
Intel quad core I5 series. The others are a bit of a mix between the
two. AMD Athlon 64bit, Intel Dual cores, etc. More than enough to
run googles scripts.

Which doesn't take away from what I said about the scripts...They
could be more efficient. There's no since in wasting cpu power just
because you can. I take it, you're not a coder?

As far as your comment concerning I-81, Perhaps you should stop with
the accusation that I'm a hypocrite, as it's evident you're either
been fed information concerning me, and/or stalking me on your own.
I suspect it's a combination of the two. So, I'll just say this
about it, David Brooks has an axe to grind with me over a problem he
created for himself because I wouldn't break into two web forums and
copy their user databases to turn over to him. The two year butthurt
comment you wrote previously, it's clear you misunderstood the
subject.

I *waited* two years before I returned the doxing attempt he made,
two years prior on me, for refusing to help him. So, if anybodies
been 'butthurt' over it, it was him. And, I can provide MIDs proving
how ****ed off he was concerning it, if you need to see them.

I think the recent doxing round two has really gotten under his skin
though, to the point where he hijacked a thread in this newsgroup
asking for help, as well as creating a new thread recently, asking
others to do his dirty work for him. He's a technological ****tard
of the highest calibre. And he seeks help from others more tech
savvy to help him 'get revenge' on anyone who told him 'no' and
taught him a lesson when he wouldn't accept that for an answer. I'm
not the only one he's ****ed with, and I certainly won't be the
last.

Btw, I often use I-81 to get from city to city and state to state
when I don't feel like using backroads. Sometimes though, the
backroads are actually faster. But, it depends on time of day, road
conditions, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_81

How about *installing* it, pedantic boy?

It doesn't require installation. It's a 'portable' app.

It still comes down to how the Admin was set up; some will lock
down to the point of prohibiting any .exe from running. I've
even seen some systems where one can't install a new printer.

I like the fact you need to move goalposts to justify your erroneous
statement, after I provided some nifty urls providing various
Windows and DOS apps that require no installation. I know of several
Linux apps that require no installation either.

If we're discussing windows (and it looks like we are since you
mentioned .exe specifically) short of domain invoked policies, local
system policies can be beaten. If one wanted to do so. And, you
initially wrote "installing it".

Based on that, you assumed Xnews requires that you 'install' it. If
you want to go the 'Oh, but the Admin could prevent you from running
an .exe' sure, they could. They could also just as easily deny you
access to google groups. So, what's your point here? As, in most
corporate installs I've seen, one doesn't need to be reading usenet
while on company time, and, it's easy enough to block at the
external firewall level.

If they did it 'whitelist only access' style, you won't be getting
around it, easily, either. Unlike the policy settings, depending on
how they were deployed. Some IT depts are lazy (or the company runs
very unique software) and so don't make use of domain level. When
they don't, the policies can be circumvented. I've done it, many
times when a company 'retires' older computers and didn't bother
erasing the hard disk before hand.

After all, one can't run an App which hasn't been installed.

Are you sure about that? You seem to be of the mistaken
impression that All apps require installation. They don't.

It still comes down to how restrictive the Admin was set up (and
what options their Admin pkg has). I've seen/used some which were
locked down to the point of prohibiting a random .exe from
running. Similarly, where one can't even install a new
printer...or updated print driver to an existing printer (yes, on
first glance, that one seems stupid).

Well, the thing is, it depends on HOW the 'random' exe block is
setup. Is it an executable HASH, or simply based on filenames? If
it's the latter, renaming Xnews.exe to an 'allowed' filename WILL
get around the block. And this is besides the point. You stated,
initially, 'installed' Xnews requires no installation. So, contrary
to what you wrote, you *can* run an app that hasn't been 'installed'

An installer is a luxury that for the most part, Windows users take
for granted. I blame it on MS need to 'dumb it down' for the user.

Because the conversation that this stems from was from a decade
ago, when big USB sticks weren't dirt cheap, etc.

It's using 162megabytes of drive space. That's including stored
message bodies, thousands of saved posts, articles, etc. Would
easily fit on a cd-r with plenty of room to spare. Even a 256meg USB
'memory card' or stick would hold it, just fine. And, 256meg sticks
weren't expensive a decade ago.

Doesn't require admin level rights to run, either.

Oh, so then let me go test your claim by taking a copy of Xnews
to a PC on a USB and plugging it in ... oh, look: they've locked
out the USB port drivers for all storage media too.

You didn't include system/group/domain policy settings with your
initial comment concerning admin rights required...That leaves one
to assume you meant a standard configuration which has no such
policies in place.

if you feel the need to move the goal posts, please let me know
ahead of time. ok? I understand that you've been left with no choice
but to move them now, as you obviously were of the mistaken
impression that programs required installation (when many do not) so
to save face here, you must add conditions to your original
statement.

Which is a rather pointless condition to set, because Admins can
just as easily block access to google groups, without otherwise
affecting your ability to use the search engine. And, it's much
harder to get around that if they did it properly, as in only
allowing you to bring up site domains that are already on a
whitelist. And, refusing to reverse DNS any sites which aren't. Or,
allowing you to visit any sites that don't resolve (if you try to
use the IP address instead of domain name) to a known whitelisted
domain. Effectively taking out any ideas of using a proxy to bypass
the restrictions in place.

But, you know this already, right?

After all, you did claim I that was bluffing about my techie
knowledge and was an average joe who wouldn't know nearly as much as
you do concerning IT, but it's becoming obvious, your statement was
in error. Infact, I might know considerably more than you, depending
on the IT related subject. Unlike you though, I'm not willing to
make blanket statements concerning what you do/don't know so quickly
without getting to know more about you.

Because they invisibly & painlessly handle the .rn (or .newsrc)
file updates automatically for me, as I move between
devices/platforms: my read/unread thread are all up to date ...
with zero effort on my part.

That only works if you're logged into Google. And, it's not doing
what you think it's doing, but the result certainly would look the
same to you.

I don't know why I'd just copy my newsrc file to take with me,
when I can just rar/zip/native copy the entire Xnews folder
instead?

Which is still more work...you're not going to beat ZERO effort.

You don't have zero effort, though. You have to login to google.
Sure, google keeps track of what you've read/haven't read yet once
you do, but, you still have to login first. Which requires you to
have a google account, AND, make use of it. Otherwise, it doesn't
track anything for you, you get to remember the last post you read
on your own. Neither option is zero work. GG or a real usenet
client.

Lack of any filtering ability, limited search options, failure
to maintain proper threading. Inability to change threading
views, etc.

But of course there's downsides; life is like that.

Well, those are important things to me and others who've been on
usenet for decades and actually like the flexability and control
offered with a real client, vs a web portal interface. YMMV.

Sorry, kid, but your l33t attempts fall flat. I've been online
for longer than you've been alive...and I'm not talking about as a
6th Grader playing Oregon Trail -- I'm talking about having a paid
IT job.

I've made no such attempts, instead, I provided some differences
between a web portals method of usenet access vs that of an actual
newsreader. There's nothing l33t about choosing to use an actual
newsreader vs gg. The newsreader offers more individual, control,
and imo, provides for a better usenet experience.

6th grader playing oregon trail? I'd grown out of games like that by
then. Try 2nd grade, instead. Personally, I found 'The Dallas quest'
to be much more challenging, and Robot Oddysey from the learning
company actually contributed to migraines for me. That was one hell
of a game to beat. The Dallas quest took me a few weeks, but, the
other one, oi, that was a *******, it took me over two months! I was
in elementary school then, so, you'll have forgive my inability to
dedicate 'full time' to either of them. Otherwise, I'd have
completed both sooner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Odyssey

Does being paid to write custom software while your still in
elementary school count as an IT job? If so, you aren't the only one
to have an IT job way back when, then. I was already cracking
commercial copy protected software years before I started the 6th
grade. BFG

Since you brought IT up though, what age were you when you got your
first degree (honorary is fine too) and/or certification? You do
have one or more right? You should if you've been doing it for as
long as you've claimed. No realistic reason not to.

And you continue to choose to miss the point.

I didn't miss your point. For you, GG works. For me, it's not
satisfactory. Tell me something though, if you don't mind.. What did
you use prior to GG?

Further, I can review them at any time I like, prior to them
being sent and make changes and/or delete them instead, if I so
choose. I can also delay which ones get sent and when. Can't do
any of that with google groups...

Nope, and it simply isn't an important capability for my
workflows.

Workflows to me sounds like a spreadsheet or storyboard mockup
before one begins writing the source code to a complicated
program...

I'm aware of the options of Newsreaders, as I did use them for a
couple of decades. Kid, the problem you're having is that you're
arrogantly assuming that you're telling me something that I didn't
already know.

I'm assuming nothing about you. As I told you before, I don't know
you. You certainly aren't making that process an easy one for me,
either. Have I done something to you, personally, that you feel the
need to respond to me in such a manner?

I didn't assume you didn't know the differences between GG and a
real newsreader, either. I figured you might? have forgotten since
you feel that GG superior for usenet access...Other than browser
access (which btw, some real usenet servers also support), I can't
think of any other reason one would intentionally choose GG over an
actual newsreader. Especially with the limitations GG poses upon you
that a real client/server configuration doesn't.
My point in doing that was that your choice of usenet access
provider exposes information to the rest of us that doesn't need
to be. The internet can be a dangerous place, as you well know,
why just give people with nefarious intentions information they
don't even have to work for?

There's reasons, even if you don't grok them.

Alright, I'll bite. I'm always up for learning something new. What
might the reason be for you to willingly want your IP address and a
valid email account to be exposed to spammers, scammers, harvest
bots, and people with nefarious intentions?

Google groups is great, if you don't give a **** about your
own privacy.

Or know that attempts at anonymity are doomed to failure.

That depends on the steps you take, actually.

Not for years now.

Are you unfamiliar with anonymous remailers? Granted, they aren't
'new' technology, but, if used properly, the originator of the post
will never become 'known' regardless of your companies/governments
budget. Or, do you have a different definition for anonymity?

And, that's just one 'old' technology I can think of off the top of
my head. It's by no means the only one...

And, privacy isn't the same as anonymity, but, they are related
to a point..

The best security option is to never put it online, ever. And
even that has ways of being breached today.

Do let me know when all the worlds major cyphers have been broken
within your or my lifetime. Otherwise, the breaching aspect has
limitations. As does the idea of never putting something online in
the first place. That's not always within your (or my) control. And,
that's becoming less and less of an option realistically, anyhow.

One can remain anonymous online, if ...

Nope.

Yes, they can.

http://mason.gmu.edu/~afinn/html/tel..._remailers.htm

http://www.iusmentis.com/technology/...ndex-anon.html

And that doesn't even include VPN options, hacked wifi options, open
wifi leeching options, etc etc etc. It can take a bit of work on the
part of the individual(s) who wish to remain 'anonymous', but, it's
far from impossible to do.

Can you provide useful urls supporting your claim? If so, feel free
to share them. If not, enjoy the education I'm providing you, free
of charge.

As I said, I didn't recall the exact file name correctly.
That's an extremely minor issue when you realize that I'm
recalling minutia from 30 years ago ... back when you were
still in diapers.

See above. I wasn't in diapers thirty years ago...

PSL Hint: I really wan't talking about biological age.

While I appreciate your need to backpeddle and save face as you do
so, You don't actually expect me to believe that for a second or
more do you? Prior to my telling you the age difference, you
assumed (heh) that I was a 'kid', just smarting off to you. I'm not,
and, I wasn't.

You attempted to compare my IT knowledge to your own and made the
statement that I was bluffing (lol, right) about my techie
knowledge. David Brooks, the individual I have an issue with
contradicted your own statement.

I realize that MIDs are hard to make use of via GG - Yet another
limitation of accessing usenet in that manner. So, I've included a
browser friendly url that will take you to the post the MID
represents. I am of course, assuming that you actually understand
what an MID is and it's reason for existance. It's not something you
need to concern yourself with, of course, but, they do serve several
purposes.


MID:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149587731500

https://www.dropbox.com/home?preview...t+Wilders.tiff

Feb 8, 1978

The link also provides confirmation of his web site and his use of
Raid/Slam as his 'handle'.

He's infamous for writing the IROK virus, details he-

https://www.sophos.com/en-us/threat-...-analysis.aspx


From a capability standpoint, there is AFAIK no equivalent
match to GG by any alternatives that anyone has suggested in
the last ~decade.

What capabilities, specifically, do you think GG has that a
real news client does not?

The ones listed above which you just tried to comment on.

The only one that GG has on Xnews is it's ability to be accessed
on any device capable of an internet connection and a browser
able to parse the scripting.

Pretty much.

So, that's not 'capabilities' then. It's a capability. Single, not
plural. Otherwise, Xnews has far more 'capabilities' (plural) than
GG does, presently. Further (taking a play from you here), I can
always setup remote access to this machine, via a 'browser' and
access Xnews that way, from any machine in the world that has a
browser and working internet connection. Giving me all the
capabilities of Xnews, and, none of the limitations of GG.

Which doesn't make it unique.

Probably not today .. but you failed to actually prove that such
alternative products, in a viable form, actually exist.

It was never unique to GG...You do have other web browser friendly
options, but they aren't all 'free'


The only valid requirement you have stated is the web portal
aspect to GG.

And that was good enough.

Except that it's not unique to GG...

Xnews isn't a web portal, it's an actual Newsreader with
abilities that exceed that of which GG is able to offer you.

No, the fact that Xnews can do "different stuff" does not mean
"better".

Aside from inability natively to be controlled via a web browser, it
does the same thing as GG, and more. And, as I said, one can always
configure the machine to allow remote control (over secure comms of
course) so that you can use a browser, to control Xnews and get the
best of both worlds. You'd be using a browser, and, a real
newsreader with all the capabilities it affords you, that GG does
not.

You really don't know how to actually generate or analyze
capability requirements, do you kid?

Sure I do. I also recognize when someone has lost an argument too.
It's a tell when they feel the need to move goalposts.

The first objective is to assure that the capability requirements
are satisfied. That's where you've failed, kid.

The first objective is to determine if the user is willing to pay to
have the capability requirements fulfilled, or, if they are only
interested in 'free' options to satisfy them. You've yet to indicate
your decision on that. Although you use GG, it would be foolish of
me to assume you use it because you don't want to pay for browser
based usenet access, or can't afford it.

Again, you're nineteen years older than myself, so you can quit
with the condescending 'kid' remark.

Sorry, but you still haven't shown being deserving anything better
than "kid", kid.

I wasn't aware you were in a position to make judgements of any kind
concerning me. If you're incapable of being civil towards those you
know nothing about, that's on you. Not me.


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I would like to apologize for not having offended you yet.
Please be patient. I will get to you shortly.