In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

a smartphone absolutely is a computer, some of which are more capable
than what sits on people's desks.

no they aren't unless you're main use of ya putter is facetime... :-ppp

Whether or not a device is a computer has nothing to do with the use
you put it to.

sure it does.

a modern autofocus camera lens has a microprocessor and firmware (which
can be updated in some cases), but they are not considered to be a
computer by any stretch of the imagination.

Here is the nub of it "considered". "Considered" by who? Apparently by
you.

everyone other than you considers a camera lens to be a camera lens,
not a computer.

What a silly statement.

nothing silly about it.

Dedicated computers are embedded in all kinds of things ranging from
GPS to engine management systems.

they're not what is considered to be 'a computer'.

Not so considered by whom?

everyone.

Whoever it is hasn't studied them very
much.

nonsense.

do you consider a tv remote control to be a computer because there is a
microprocessor in there?

Many of them have got a memory, they all have an input, a processor,
an output. What's not to like?

like it all you want, but it's not what people consider to be 'a
computer'.

how well does photoshop run on your remote control?

by your definition, someone with a medical implant is a computer.

the rest of your rubbish snipped.