On 05/04/2018 15:14, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Thu, 5 Apr 2018 10:38:50 +0100, schrieb David B.:

I'm not a 'techie' but if I *can* help you in any way, just ask.

When I did my apprenticeship computers used thermionic valves (tubes!)
so I do have lots of experience under my belt! ;-)

Much appreciated to find a fellow sentient adult on these newsgroups!

Most of us were trained in the days of vacuum tubes, and we were taught
how to back up our facts like intelligent adults should.
http://i.cubeupload.com/tWHyBq.jpg

To give you an example of my time frame, here's my iPad and phone next
to one of my random textbooks (I changed fields of study a few times,
both undergrad and grad, back east during the height of the cold war).
http://i.cubeupload.com/nYpKZF.jpg

What's amazingly different, with Apple users overall, is their historic
and repeated incredibly unfathomable lack of attention to technical detail.
http://i.cubeupload.com/3ffdPL.jpg

Like you, I never stop learning, and it's all about detail, where, for
example, here are some of my 'self-help' books in the days of the IBM PC.
http://i.cubeupload.com/TLd0LW.jpg

Here are a set of my more recent tecnical self-help books in engineering.
http://i.cubeupload.com/pJZUtb.jpg

The point is that, on these newsgroups, the average Apple user doesn't
seem to have grown up yet to the point that they can fathom even the
/slightest/ amount of technical detail.

For example, the question asked of this thread would *never* have been
answered on this newsgroup simply because the Apple users don't have
that kind of technical knowledge that it takes to step outside of what
"Big Brother" marketing tells them. They can only push buttons.

So it's with great respect that you exist, since I'm so frustrated with
these little Apple children that you can't believe.
The reason I'm frustrated is that I don't know Apple products at all. I
really don't. And yet, when I ask even /simple/ questions of the Apple
posters, they prove time and again that they know even /less/ than I do.

It happens every time.
They're afraid to admit it.
But it happens every time.

It's so frustrating because they lie blatantly about Apple functionality.
They lie more than they tell the truth, in fact.
So it has come to the point that they're worthless since their accuracy
rate is no better than the monkey taking the psychology test.

Since I care about finding the answer, I have to go to the /adult/
newsgroups to find the answer (which is what I did in this case).

I hope you can understand my frustration since I'm in the middle of the
Silicon Valley where most of the people act like adults, and not like
most of the people how post to this newsgroup.

Thank you so much for your comprehensive message, Ragnusen.

I've read all with much interest. :-)

Should you be unfamiliar with the *Apple Support Communities* you will
find same he- https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

For an example thread, you can look at one started by me (posting as
HunterBD) he- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8332293

Be sure to look in "Read All Replies" to get an overall picture.

You will probably find answers to your questions if you ask there!

I hope this is helpful.

--
David B.