On 6/15/2018 7:36 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:


https://www.lifewire.com/difference-...t-and-shoot-49
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A point and shoot camera is sometimes called a fixed lens camera,
because the point and shoot cannot change lenses. The lenses are
built directly into the camera body. A point and shoot camera also is
very easy to use, as it doesn't offer quite the level of manual
control options that a DSLR camera offers, which is where it receives
its name. You just point the camera at the subject and shoot in fully
automatic mode.

Camera manufacturers are cutting back on the number of point and
shoot cameras they create, as the cameras on smartphones are
improving to the point where people would rather carry the smartphone
alone, rather than carrying a smartphone and a digital camera.

apparently you want to make up your own definitions to suit your
agenda. good luck with that.

I have more than one fixed-lens camera that has better lenses and more
control than any smartphone I've seen and more than a Canon DSLR that I
own; a Sony with Zeiss lens that is over a decade old, a Panasonic with
Leica lens (also aged) and Olympus TG-4. They all produce images as good
as or better than the Canon and Nikon DSLRs that I have. They have their
limitations but it isn't their performance, so I don't have a definition
for "p&s" that can be generally applied to the kinds of comments you've
made.

now go try editing your photos *on* your camera, including selective
focus or portrait lighting *after* the shot. try shooting 4k videos and
editing them *on* the camera. or shoot panoramas without having to
manually stitch individual photos.

once all that's done, then upload the results to the 'net from anywhere
there's cellular service or wifi.

and that's just for starters.

You're dancing again.

it ain't me who is dancing.

None of those are CAMERA functions, they're
editing functions and have nothing to do with image quality.

wrong, not that it matters.

the fact is that all of that can be done *on* a smartphone and *cannot*
be done on a p&s camera.

You are wrong. My Olympus TG-4 has GPS, WiFi, auto panorama (which works
quite well due to its IBS), selective focus and some editing functions.
Conversely, no smartphone has equivalent CAMERA functions to the TG-4.

Keep it up,
and you'll be back where you were when you claimed that airplanes didn't
have brakes

only on the ground, when they are *not* functioning as an airplane,
something which was quite clear.

Wrong. Every dive bomber had air brakes and several private aircraft
have them as well. Several of us pointed that out to you when you lied
about it the first time.

and there were no cameras with interchangeable film and
digital backs.

i never said any such thing. stop lying.

You most certainly did, and I'm the one that pointed out to you that the
Leica R8 and R9 had those interchangeable backs available. You are the
one that is lying.

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best regards,

Neil