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Old November 27th 18, 12:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Google phone versus $3500 Sony FF

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RichA wrote:

Since the m4/3rds camera (thanks to great IBIS) can shoot about a second
long
exposure at f/1.7, likely it will take a better night shot than the
phone.


not likely, because the phone is using computational photography and
the m4/3rds camera is stuck in the past.


Computational photography is guesswork, partly, it's like how a CD or DVD
player avoids skipping, except the CD or DVD player can actually read-ahead
whereas the camera cannot predict with precision (most of the time) what a
subject is going to do.


nope.

cd/dvd players use extensive error correction, with cd-rom/dvd-rom even
more so. a minor error in an audio or video stream isn't a big deal,
but *any* error in a data file *is*.

computational photography is not error correction. it computes what
should be there, and the results are quite good and getting better all
the time.

Dpreview compared a night-mode video camera with a Nikon D5. Problem was,
the D5 and the lens they used had no stabilization so it was limited to
1/30th without blurring the image, at 20,000 ISO. Dual IBIS and a 50mm
lens
will yield practical exposures of seconds long so unless there is fast
movement in the image, it's a better solution. Not only that, you can
drop
the ISO so the image doesn't look like crap.


not relevant.


It is if the goal is to produce a better static image such as the one
referenced. No IBIS or stabilization on night shots is crippling, unless you have a tripod.


a nikon d5 and a video camera are not relevant to a phone camera and
isp.