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Old July 14th 18, 03:47 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default The new 100-400mm seems to work.

On Jul 13, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:52:25 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jul 13, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 22:41:48 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jul 12, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 22:11:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Check this shot and a 100% crop of the top of the sail.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...O/i-f5k8TQh.jp
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Now that's better.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...O/i-xJ9w5gP.jp
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... and that's interesting ... umm.

...and what exactly did you find interesting?
I was thinking that the edges look slightly fuzzy and the contrast is
soft. Here by way of comparison is a photograph I took some years ago
when I first got my D300
https://www.dropbox.com/s/usuksr9zjd...C1038.jpg?dl=0
and here is a 100% crop of the same image.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6v6tu0sin...8-100.jpg?dl=0

Now I am somewhat baffled that you find my windsurfer shot above in anyway
comparable to your postage stamp size kite shot.

Postage stamp?


I was refering to the kite, which is less than postage stamp size regardless
of your crop.


I misunderstood you. I thought you were referring to the image as a
whole.


The microscopic kite was lost in that sea of blue.

I picked the kite image as as a convenient example, as the string was
a single sharply delineated object so narrow that any blurring of the
edges would be immediately visible. I included the full image only to
show where 100% crop came from. The point I was trying to make was
that the unprocessed kite image seemed to be sharper than top of the
sail in your image.


....er, OK.

That is an artifact of Dropbox.


I don’t seem to get DB artifacts which shrink kites. Strangely enough I
don’t get any DB introduced artifacts of any type.

You should be able to down load the file.


Yup!

When I do that I get a full height image. On my screen the 100% shot is
180 x 165.


Strange? Your original downloads as a 6MB, 2848x4288 @ 300dpi, jpg.
Your 100% crop downloads from DB as a 656KB, 1056x1152 @ 300 dpi jpg.

ISO200, f/11, 1/400, 16-85mm



Here is a different example from the same shoot, with a 100% crop.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-sFT2N6g/0/2fd7f912/O/i-sFT2N6g.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-mRpmjJz/0/6d12881d/O/i-mRpmjJz.jpg

That is sharper. There is a fuzzy edge to part of the sail but I suspect
that has been caused by highspeed flutter.

...and if it is a kite shot you need, there were kite surfers there, so
here is one which can provide a more meaningful comparison with a 100% crop.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-qGmChmc/0/c22cf6b3/O/i-qGmChmc.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-87wst94/0/84a9ac51/O/i-87wst94.jpg

I picked the kite photo because the way the camera was able to resolve
the full length of what was not a particularly large cord, which was
probably less than 1/3 of the diameter of the cords used by the kite
surfers in your shot.


...and that makes for a nice abstractish line in the sky.


At the time I was most interested in the curve in the line caused by
the wind shear.


....and a pleasing curve it was.


No processing has been done other than converting from NEF to JPG.

Would it have mattered, given that the original target was so small?

I can't understand your comment about that, particularly because
Dropbox seems to have removed the EXIF data.


Nope! All the EXIF data was complete DB removed nothing. Here is what I got
after downloading your 100% crop.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vui0lq9vhhjghr0/screenshot_338.jpg?


Here is what I got when I tried to access the EXIF of the Dropbox
image using Firefox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cy1csuvrm2s8k8k/Kite.jpg?dl=0
Normally I get the full EXIF.


Interesting. That must be a Firefox/Mozilla thing DB has removed nothing, and
even you have been able to get full EXIF at some time or another. I had no
problem using Safari on my Mac.

Just for the Hell of it I also checked the full EXIF
usinghttp://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi and it seems that processed, or not
your image shows a definging correction applied:
Defringe Purple Hue Lo: 30
Defringe Purple Hue Hi: 70
Defringe Green Hue Lo: 40
Defringe Green Hue Hi: 40

Then I guess there was sharpening applied in-camera to show:
Sharpen Radius: +1.0
Sharpen Detail: 25
Sharpen Edge Masking: 0
Sharpness: 40

Color Noise Reduction: 25


I considered your target to be the kite, and that was resolved so small in
both the original, and the 100% crop that determining sharpness of that kite
image to be near impossible. Therefore my thought that no amount of post
processing would have made a difference.


And still it was sharp.


The line was sharp, the kite was something less than sharp.

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Regards,
Savageduck