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Sat, 27 May 2017
15:34:51 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote:

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0YLdt t5ez6Q1Ql2L9, Diesel wrote:

Too complicated for you to understand, I get it. That's
probably why you feel right at home on a Mac. They are good
baby sitters for those who don't know, or want to learn, how
the machine in front of them works. Apple prides itself on
dumbing technology down and charging you out the ass for it.

nonsense.

Do you have any reputable sites which dispute what I wrote?

reputable sites don't refer to mac users as idiots who need
babysitters. only apple-bashers do that.

So you have no sites to offer?


See below if you want to get an idea of how much you're being ****ed
over. Btw, the Acer below is considerably more upgradable if you
wanted to do so. The all in one mac, due to it's very
design/case/etc, isn't.

Other than swapping out the HD and adding more ram, that is. With
the Acer, I can add another hard drive, internally; no swap
required. As well as the ram, the video card, the sound card, etc
etc etc. I can't changeout the sound card or video card on the mac.
I'm stuck with what it has. Thanks so much Apple. I can't add an
additional video card to the apple for quad display or coin mining,
either. I can with the Acer. And, if I wanted to mine coins,
I'd want more GPUS and the better CPU working together for faster
coin mining results. The apple won't lemme do that.


the prices of apple products are competitive for similar specs,
often *less* expensive.

We're discussing Apple computers, specifically. Do you have any
reputable sites that state an Apple computer costs about the same as
an equivalent PC? If so, please provide url(s)...

for instance, the retina imac 5k costs about the same as a dell 5k
display, which is just a display, no computer. you have to add the
cost of the computer, which makes it quite a bit more expensive
than the imac.

You aren't making a fair comparison, here.

And the retina imac 5k had/still has? issues with backlighting and
it's not exactly the speediest machine available, either. They took
an older machine and gave it a new video panel, essentially.
http://www.alphr.com/apple/apple-imac-1

But, as I said, this isn't a fair comparison. Especially when you
consider that it's an all in one, and not just a display that can be
connected to other computers...Unlike the Dell you picked for price
comparison purposes..Which is a bit pricey, considering other
options...


https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac

I'm assuming you picked the Dell because of it's high price, and,
made no effort to see what other companies were offering theirs for.
So, I did it for you:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-J3G14A8-AB.../dp/B00VO85RY6

Thats a commercial grade one, too.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...28&ignorebbr=1

i7 (all retina imacs are i5) CPU, twice the ram, twice the HD
space...If compared to the prior two Apple Imacs with 5k retina
otherwise, HD space is the same, ram isn't, and cpu is lacking on
the Apple. The apple is using an i5. The acer is using an i7 with a
higher clock frequency before 'turbo boost'

Price for the only Imac with retina that has the same HD size, but
half the ram, and i5 cpu (where as the Acer has an i7): 2299.99


monitor: 1399.74 - new in the box, 899.99 (used like new)
System.: 769.99 - new in the box
total cost:
2169.93 if all new
1669.98 if going with 'used like new' monitor
Neither price includes shipping.

Near equ apple (less ram, less cpu power) 2299.99

PC gives you choices, lots and lots of choices. Apple, ehh, not so
much, no. Not so good on equ machines either here, the Acer ships with
twice as much ram, and, a more advanced cpu:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...core-i5-vs-i7/

I know which one I'd go with, if I was in the market for the 5k
display and a suitable machine to mate with it. G

the samsung galaxy s8 costs *more* than a similar iphone, as did
the galaxy note 7 before it was recalled.

Again, you aren't making a fair comparison here, either.

if you want to see charging out the ass, look no further than
microsoft.

the price of the microsoft surface studio is about *double* the
price of a similar apple imac, with the only tangible difference
being that the surface studio display pivots and supports touch.

Well, you claimed that about the retina display, and, I've proven
you wrong already. so unless you're willing to provide specs on what
you think an equ imac is for fact checking I'm not going to take
what you've written at face value.


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Satan still has a restraining order against me.