On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:13:57 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:05:05 -0700, John McWilliams
wrote:

On 7/28/15 PDT 5:41 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-07-28 07:25:49 +0000, Bill W said:

Okay, I was forced to post some air show photos:

;-)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/489821...7654121813454/


Comments

are welcome, but on the processing, of course. They're just
planes in the sky, not much you can do with those as far as
composition goes.

Don't worry about that. It looks as though you were positioned near the
end of the runway where all the planes were on final approach. You had
some interesting captures.
The shots of the "Buffs" B-52s reminded me of the days in the 60's and
70s, when at about 3 PM-4:30 PM everyday, there was an endless stream of
B-52s overhead on the approach to Griffiss AFB returning from their SAC
mission,

Anyway, all work was done in LR, all photos were cropped, and all had
at least some of the following adjustments: color temp, exposure,
shadows, highlights, clarity, vibrance, saturation, and sharpening,
and one photo used the haze removal slider (the one with the sun in
the upper right corner). Those are the things I'm interested in
comments on. I see after posting them that there is noise in the sky
in some of them. I really need to look into that, but it might just be
aggressive sharpening. I also failed to remove spots in a couple of
the photos. I do need to learn to clean those lenses...

There are some shots which have great potential; The F-16, The F-18, the
F-86 (that has some highlight clipping which needs fixing), and The
F-22. I am not clear on the ID of one of the older fighters, but I think
it is either an F-80, or an F-94.
Also the B-52 & B-1B are impressive, but need some dust spot clean up.

The P-51 shot was spoilt by the sun flare.

On to LR Post.
Are these RAW or JPEG originals?

Spots (dust spots anyway) are more likely to be on the sensor than the
lens. It is worth learning how to clean the sensor if you are using a
DSLR or a mirrorless system.

Most of those can be addressed in post.

Since you are using LR for post remember that all adjustments are
non-destructive and reversable and can always be revisited and tweaked.

Obviously, you are using a workflow you are comfortable with but here is
a little input from me .
In LR my RAW workflow goes something like this:
1: Set "Camera Calibration".
2: Check "Lens Correction" which includes correcting CA, zoomed in to
1:1 on contrast edges/fringes.
3: "Basic" panel:
a: Set Black Point, with the cursor on the "Blacks" slider, hold down
the alt/Option key, then adjust until you have one or two areas of black
spots on the white background.
b: Set White point, repeat the procedure above.
c: Check highlights the same way sliding to the left until hot spots
dissapear and clipping is dealt with.

For the following the alt/Option key technique isn't used.
d: Clarity, adjust for taste but don't over do.
e: Shadows, sliding to right is going to open up some of the shadow
detail without adjusting exposure.
f: Exposure, tweak if needed.
g: Contrast, Tweak if needed.
h: WB (Temp, & Tint), Tweak if needed.

4: "Detail"
a: Sharpening, again use the alt/Option key while moving the slider
to the right to between 60-115. Then do the same with Radius, setting
from 1.0-1.5. Finally with Masking hold down the alt/Option key and
slide to the right, usually to 80-95 so that only the area needing
sharpening is sharpened.
b: Noise, pick an area of sky and zoom in to 1:1, hold down the
alt/Option key and the image will apear grey. If you see any noise move
the luminance slider to the right usually somewhere between 25-40.

FINALLY crop to finish.


Nice and clear.

What happens if you crop first?

In lightroom, the crop does not remove anything. It just makes what
is outside the crop non-visible. It doesn't make any difference at
what point in the post-processing you crop.

It can do when you are setting black and white points. You only want
to take into account only those parts of the image which are going to
be in the final picture.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens