Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On Fri, 15 May 2020 09:29:34 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

And how do you know it's reliable?

Alan,

It's clear to adults you _hate_ Apple phones aren't even in the top ten.
o As a result of your hatred of Apple products, you fabricate excuses.

You don't even realize _why_ you are so _desperate_ to fabricate excuses
o When it's simply that you _hate_ Apple iPhones fare so poorly

There's no question that Apple isn't even in the top ten, Alan.
o You apologists are _desperate_ to deflect that simple factual truth.

You apologists _hate_ reliable sites your vaunted Apple camera QOR isn't
even in the top ten in the _best_ site on the planet for overall smartphone
camera QOR testing, bar none.

You apologists are _desperate_ to make inane _excuses_ for why Apple phones
aren't even in the top ten of camera QOR, where at least the OP, Steve
Scharf, is asking why is it that it's mostly the Chinese branded
smartphones (which is a valid question).

While your claims simply show how fantastically ignorant you are,
o What's hilarious, actually, is nospam's _excuse_ for Apple products.

The nospam apologist claims Apple doesn't have enough money to bribe the
testers to put the iPhone in the top ten in QOR.

And yet, this simple question is one _all_ you apologists instantly fail:
o Name a single _better_ camera-testing site that tests most smartphones
using a scientific approach, and which ranks the detailed scores.

Name just one.
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Two traits of apologists shine in their hatred of Apple phones' lack of
camera QOR. (1) They despise reliable testing sites, and (2) they fabricate
the most inane excuses for why Apple iPhones aren't even in the top ten.

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi)Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On 2020-05-16 7:17 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2020 09:29:34 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

And how do you know it's reliable?

Alan,

It's clear to adults you _hate_ Apple phones aren't even in the top ten.
o As a result of your hatred of Apple products, you fabricate excuses.

It's clear you didn't answer my question.


You don't even realize _why_ you are so _desperate_ to fabricate excuses
o When it's simply that you _hate_ Apple iPhones fare so poorly

There's no question that Apple isn't even in the top ten, Alan.
o You apologists are _desperate_ to deflect that simple factual truth.

You apologists _hate_ reliable sites your vaunted Apple camera QOR isn't
even in the top ten in the _best_ site on the planet for overall smartphone
camera QOR testing, bar none.

You apologists are _desperate_ to make inane _excuses_ for why Apple phones
aren't even in the top ten of camera QOR, where at least the OP, Steve
Scharf, is asking why is it that it's mostly the Chinese branded
smartphones (which is a valid question).

While your claims simply show how fantastically ignorant you are,
o What's hilarious, actually, is nospam's _excuse_ for Apple products.

The nospam apologist claims Apple doesn't have enough money to bribe the
testers to put the iPhone in the top ten in QOR.

And yet, this simple question is one _all_ you apologists instantly fail:
o Name a single _better_ camera-testing site that tests most smartphones
using a scientific approach, and which ranks the detailed scores.

Name just one.

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On Sun, 17 May 2020 06:51:26 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:

It is like if you were posting political commentaries simultaneously
to both Republican and Democratic party groups.

The question here is why the Chinese do so well with camera QOR.
o Of the top ten phones, none are what we might call "American".'

For example, "Apple" isn't even on the list of top ten
(and yes, we all know they're manufactured in part or whole in China).
o But they're not necessarily _designed_ in China.

Does anyone have an erudite answer to Steve's question?
--
The apologists love to knock a thread off track simply because they _hate_
that Apple products aren't as good as the marketing brochures claimed.

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On 2020-05-16 11:42 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2020 06:51:26 +0200 (GMT+02:00), Libor Striz wrote:

It is like if you were posting political commentaries simultaneously
to both Republican and Democratic party groups.

The question here is why the Chinese do so well with camera QOR.
o Of the top ten phones, none are what we might call "American".'

And I told you:

For whatever reason it happens, DXOMark tests iPhones after a much
longer interval from their release than other phones.


For example, "Apple" isn't even on the list of top ten
(and yes, we all know they're manufactured in part or whole in China).
o But they're not necessarily _designed_ in China.

Does anyone have an erudite answer to Steve's question?

I answered.

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

In article , Alan Baker
wrote:



The question here is why the Chinese do so well with camera QOR.
o Of the top ten phones, none are what we might call "American".'

And I told you:

For whatever reason it happens, DXOMark tests iPhones after a much
longer interval from their release than other phones.

the reason is because apple does not play their games and pay their
fees.

google, on the other hand, is happy to not only pay dxomark, but to
also supply them with *prerelease* phones so that they can quote a
score at the product announcement. nor surprisingly, the score was 'the
highest ever'. money talks.

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On Sun, 17 May 2020 08:00:53 -0400, nospam wrote:

the reason is because apple does not play their games and pay their
fees.

Normally you claim that Apple marketing brochures do a better job at iPhone
testing than do the reliable testing sites such as DXOMark clearly is.

Now you're simply claiming Apple is too poor to bribe reliable testers.

You apologists are _desperate_ to fabricate any excuse for the facts.
o nospam: *Apple didn't _bribe_ those greedy yet reliable testers!*
o Baker: *Those stupid yet reliable testers _forgot_ the iPhone exists!*

Poor Apple doesn't have enough money to bribe DXOMark while the following
(all of whom are in the top ten today) have money to bribe DXOMark.
o Hauwei
o Honor
o Oppo
o Xiami
o Samsung

And yet, the facts remain... (since we keep abreast of facts):
o Rarely are iPhones _ever_ long in the top ten of smartphone camera QOR
--
Apologists hate Apple products don't test as well as they show up in the
glossy marketing brochures (which is all that the apologists believe in).

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On Sat, 16 May 2020 23:45:38 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

For whatever reason it happens, DXOMark tests iPhones after a much
longer interval from their release than other phones.

Alan,
How many iPhones has Apple ever made?
o And how many are on the tested list at this very moment?

HINT: Almost all of them.

You seem to be making the famous claim that the next phone will be the
killer even though _all_ the prior phones aren't even on the top ten.

It's classic for you apologists to simply fabricate your excuses for Apple.

What your response proves is you're _desperate_ to fabricate an excuse for
why _every_ iPhone that _was_ already tested (and that's literally almost
every iPhone ever made!), isn't even on the top ten.

What's interesting is how _desperate_ you apologists are to claim that
Apple MARKETING brochures are the gospel and that every tester on the
planet is being _bribed_ by everyone but Apple (according to nospam)...

Why else are iPhones almost never even in the top list of camera QOR?
o It must be a conspiracy because MARKETING brochures are so very pretty.

How could an Apple MARKETING brochure possibly not be right!
o nospam: It must be that Apple didn't _bribe_ the reliable testers
o Baker: It must be that the reliable testers _forgot_ Apple existed

What you and nospam prove is you're _desperate_ to claim that the Apple
MARKETING brochures are what's accurate - and not reliable testing sites.
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Apologists hate Apple products rarely come out on top in reliable tests.
(Because apologists believe only what they read in glossy brochures.)

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

Arlen Holder Wrote in message:

Alan,It's clear to adults you _hate_ Apple phones aren't even in the top ten.
As a result of your hatred of Apple products, you fabricate excuses.You don't even realize _why_ you are so _desperate_ to fabricate excuses.......

Well, Arlen, you call for it, routinely posting simultaneously
to both Android and iPhone Usenet groups.
It is, intentional or ( I believe ) not, heaping up of flammable
stuff for flame wars.

It is like if you were posting political commentaries simultaneously
to both Republican and Democratic party groups.
Some of responses would express hatred for each other and whatever
they do,
and even toward yourself, mixing them together.

--
Poutnik ( the Wanderer )

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi)Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

Arlen Holder Wrote in message:

The question here is why the Chinese do so well with camera QOR.....

Considering what you have quoted and how you have replied,
you did not get it.
You have then to unnecessarily deal with reactions of others.

Your choice.

--
Poutnik ( the Wanderer )

Why Are the Chinese Brand Phones (Huawei, Honor, Oppo, Xiaomi) Crushing the Competition in Camera Quality
 

On Sat, 16 May 2020 23:45:38 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:

And I told you:

For whatever reason it happens, DXOMark tests iPhones after a much
longer interval from their release than other phones.

Alan,

You're the only one on this planet who doesn't realize these simple facts:
o Which is likely why you & nospam are so desperate to deflect the subject.

1. *Apple phones _are_ on the DXOMark list; they just aren't on the top ten!*
2. *Virtually all Apple phones are tested; they just not in the top ten!*

It's not that DXOMark doesn't test the iPhones; it's that the iPhones score
so low that you don't _see_ any iPhone in the top ten (currently).

You can't see they're in the list; they're just not in the top ten slots.
o The top ten slots, to the point of this thread, are mostly Chinese.

Again, you apologists apparently _hate_ the glossy brochures make out Apple
camera QOR to be far better than any reliable testers can verify in fact.

Maybe you apologists should stop believing only what's in the brochures?
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Apologists are shocked that the brochures didn't tell them the truth.