The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
By Thomas Fox-Brewster (Forbes)
Feb 26, 2018 = In what appears to be a major breakthrough for law enforcement, and a possible privacy problem for Apple customers, a major U.S. government contractor claims to have found a way to unlock pretty much every iPhone on the market. Cellebrite, a Petah Tikva, Israel-based vendor that's become the U.S. government's company of choice when it comes to unlocking mobile devices, is this month telling customers its engineers currently have the ability to get around the security of devices running iOS 11. That includes the iPhone X, a model that Forbes has learned was successfully raided for data by the Department for Homeland Security back in November 2017, most likely with Cellebrite technology. https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb.../#4ef11d00667a FYI ...... (I didn't know either! ;-) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petah_...Peta_Tikwa.jpg -- David B. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model InExistence
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 08:50:53 +0000, David_B wrote:
By Thomas Fox-Brewster (Forbes) Feb 26, 2018 = In what appears to be a major breakthrough for law enforcement, and a possible privacy problem for Apple customers, a major U.S. government contractor claims to have found a way to unlock pretty much every iPhone on the market. Cellebrite, a Petah Tikva, Israel-based vendor that's become the U.S. government's company of choice when it comes to unlocking mobile devices, is this month telling customers its engineers currently have the ability to get around the security of devices running iOS 11. That includes the iPhone X, a model that Forbes has learned was successfully raided for data by the Department for Homeland Security back in November 2017, most likely with Cellebrite technology. https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb...overnment-can- access-any-apple-iphone-cellebrite/#4ef11d00667a FYI ...... (I didn't know either! ;-) ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petah_...Peta_Tikwa.jpg Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
In article , ray carter
wrote: Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone. definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even encrypted. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
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nospam wrote: In article , ray carter wrote: Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone. definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even encrypted. But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first place. -- Barry Margolin Arlington, MA |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
Barry Margolin wrote:
Yet another good reason to use a dumb flip phone. definitely not. those are *far* easier to crack. they aren't even encrypted. But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first place. I agree with the sentiment to not /put/ incriminating data on a phone, where a dumb phone will naturally contain far less automatically generating data in the first place. But I bring up the sentiment that anyone who thinks /any/ phone is /safe/ is a fool, because, for a criminal anyway, the biggest incrimination is simply the ping to the cellular tower that makes a cell phone work as a cell phone. Those who /feel/ safer with brand X phones versus brand Y phones because the marketing of brand X is better than brand Y, I posit, are fools, because the weakest set of links of all cell phones are the same. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
Barry Margolin:
But you probably don't have much incriminating data on it in the first place. As I am not a criminal, I have no incriminating data, digital or other. As a professional who has a deep understanding of SIGINT and surveillance after 32 years in the business, my fear that the US government might want to crack my iPhone ranks well below my fear that I will be pecked to death by marauding peacocks that I disturbed while fleeing an incoming asteroid. https://www.flickr.com/photos/primeval/13024995215 -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
In article , ultred ragnusen
wrote: But I bring up the sentiment that anyone who thinks /any/ phone is /safe/ is a fool, because, for a criminal anyway, the biggest incrimination is simply the ping to the cellular tower that makes a cell phone work as a cell phone. that just shows that the phone was in a given location. if the criminal leaves the phone at home, it won't put them at the scene of the crime. cell tower pings *won't* get access to the data *on* the phone, which includes photos, text messages, email, calendar, notes, financial information, social media information and much, much more. that stuff is *extremely* valuable, not just for investigators, but also for other criminals, who now know where you live and what your schedule is (i.e., when to break into your house), who your kids are and what they look like, where they go to school, etc. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
nospam wrote:
that just shows that the phone was in a given location. if the criminal leaves the phone at home, it won't put them at the scene of the crime. Lots of answers to your useless repartee, one of which is that you know full well that they fly Cessnas over cities to gather up the location of all phones and they use fake Harris Stingray mobile towers in vehicles to gather up the same location data on everyone, including both criminals and nuns. In addition, extremely many crimes are crimes of passion, or crimes of opportunity, where there's no chance for the criminal to shut off the phone before they shoot that person in the car given road rage or whatever. My main point is that /all/ cellphones have the same set of weakest links where anyone who actually /feels/ safe because the excellent M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G of the brand made them /feel/ safe, is a fool. cell tower pings *won't* get access to the data *on* the phone, which includes photos, text messages, email, calendar, notes, financial information, social media information and much, much more. Since you bought too many arguments this week, I will only note in response that I said the /set/ of weakest links on all phones is the same, where the cell-tower ping is only one of those weak links. For just another example, when you texted someone, and whom you texted, and even perhaps the size of the text message, and where it was sent from and where the person was when they received it, etc., are in that set. My point is that the set of weakest links is the same in /all/ cellular phones, such that anyone who /thinks/ they're safe from prying eyes because MARKETING of brand X said so, is a fool. that stuff is *extremely* valuable, not just for investigators, but also for other criminals, who now know where you live and what your schedule is (i.e., when to break into your house), who your kids are and what they look like, where they go to school, etc. A Harris StingRay is not all that expensive to buy and use. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
Davoud wrote:
As a professional who has a deep understanding of SIGINT and surveillance after 32 years in the business, my fear that the US government might want to crack my iPhone ranks well below my fear that I will be pecked to death by marauding peacocks that I disturbed while fleeing an incoming asteroid. I think we all have a relatively deep understanding of SIGINT where anyone who wishes to put the bits together can piece together rather easily our actions. For example, let's say you're not a criminal, but that you want to run for office, but you visited that lady of ill repute or that young man on Friday afternoon, or even that doctor who specializes in venereal diseases last Saturday or maybe just that you recently searched on your phone for a size 10 dress when your wife has a size 0 frame. The point of those imaginary examples is just that there are lots of things that aren't illegal that people do that should still be kept private from prying eyes. |
The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
Davoud:
As a professional who has a deep understanding of SIGINT and surveillance after 32 years in the business, my fear that the US government might want to crack my iPhone ranks well below my fear that I will be pecked to death by marauding peacocks that I disturbed while fleeing an incoming asteroid. ultred ragnusen: I think we all have a relatively deep understanding of SIGINT where anyone who wishes to put the bits together can piece together rather easily our actions. If you think that you are delusional. You haven't even got a very shallow understanding of SIGINT collection and processing. Persons outside the community know as much about SIGINT as they do about neurosurgery. Less, potentially, as the entire body of knowledge on neurosurgery is publicly available. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm |
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