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Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
On Sep 13, 2020 at 12:15:52 AM PDT, "RichA" wrote:
https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/171033412 I learned early that there is a time, place, and appropriate subject for the electronic shutter. Along with rolling shutter, artificial lighting, including flash/speedlight can cause issues. My first captured example of rolling shutter was also a Hummingbird. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: Personally I'm still dreaming of that new sensor which Panasonic presented a while ago: organic, with three stacked colour layers, probably global electronic shutter (but I can't remember), and the collected charge is stored in separate capacitors. This would give you all three RGB colour components at each pixel, a huge dynamic range and a global electronic shutter (would allow extremely short flash sync time). no it wouldn't. what it would give is significantly worse dynamic range, more noise and poorer colour. there are very good reasons why not a single company has brought a stacked sensor to market other than sigma/foveon, which was an unmitigated disaster. |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
On 9/13/2020 5:26 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Alfred Molon wrote: Personally I'm still dreaming of that new sensor which Panasonic presented a while ago: organic, with three stacked colour layers, probably global electronic shutter (but I can't remember), and the collected charge is stored in separate capacitors. This would give you all three RGB colour components at each pixel, a huge dynamic range and a global electronic shutter (would allow extremely short flash sync time). no it wouldn't. what it would give is significantly worse dynamic range, more noise and poorer colour. there are very good reasons why not a single company has brought a stacked sensor to market other than sigma/foveon, which was an unmitigated disaster. color filtration is implemented in all digital color cameras? the question is what RGB model you are seeking? -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
In article , dale
wrote: color filtration is implemented in all digital color cameras? obviously, otherwise you wouldn't get colour images. |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
On Sep 13, 2020 at 1:53:48 PM PDT, "Alfred Molon"
wrote: In article , says... https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/171033412 I learned early that there is a time, place, and appropriate subject for the electronic shutter. Along with rolling shutter, artificial lighting, including flash/speedlight can cause issues. My first captured example of rolling shutter was also a Hummingbird. You can't use current electronic shutters for very fast moving objects. It would have to be a global electronic shutter, not a row by row one. We still wait on the global electronic shutter. With my Fuji’s I follow recommendations and use a mix of shutter options depending on subject and location: Generally I stick with the mechanical shutter which takes me up to 1/8000. However, I usually have my X-T3 set Electronic Front Curtain shutter up to 1/2000, and mechanical shutter for speeds faster than 1/2000 to 1/8000, but mostly I just use the mechanical shutter. If I am using flash/speed light that is mechanical shutter only. If I need speeds higher than 1/8000, up to 1/32000 I use the electronic shutter. These days that is something I seldom use, unless I am out in particularly bright, or harsh sunlight without appropriate ND filters, if my subject is not moving too much. Personally I'm still dreaming of that new sensor which Panasonic presented a while ago: organic, with three stacked colour layers, probably global electronic shutter (but I can't remember), and the collected charge is stored in separate capacitors. Dream away. This would give you all three RGB colour components at each pixel, a huge dynamic range and a global electronic shutter (would allow extremely short flash sync time). I don't know about Olympus, but with Fuji flash is disabled when using electronic shutter, or electronic front curtain shutter. -- Regards, Savageduck |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
On Sep 13, 2020 at 5:02:14 AM PDT, "Savageduck"
wrote: On Sep 13, 2020 at 12:15:52 AM PDT, "RichA" wrote: https://pbase.com/andersonrm/image/171033412 I learned early that there is a time, place, and appropriate subject for the electronic shutter. Along with rolling shutter, artificial lighting, including flash/speedlight can cause issues. My first captured example of rolling shutter was also a Hummingbird. Here is my Hummingbird example of rolling shutter due to the electronic shutter on my X-E2. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9d3QSvv/0/5bfddd31/O/i-9d3QSvv.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
In article ,
says... Personally I'm still dreaming of that new sensor which Panasonic presented a while ago: organic, with three stacked colour layers, probably global electronic shutter (but I can't remember), and the collected charge is stored in separate capacitors. Dream away. I don't understand. Wouldn't it be good to have a sensor like that? -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
Hummingbird meets electronic shutter
In article , Alfred Molon
wrote: Personally I'm still dreaming of that new sensor which Panasonic presented a while ago: organic, with three stacked colour layers, probably global electronic shutter (but I can't remember), and the collected charge is stored in separate capacitors. Dream away. I don't understand. Wouldn't it be good to have a sensor like that? no. there is no advantage in a stacked sensor and all sorts of disadvantages. |
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